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QM
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Posted on: Aug 14, 2008 - 5:25pm
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The Pharm. Mate patch would be worn on the left sleeve.
Regarding the picture of the QM 1/c patch on the left sleeve, consider switching it back to the right sleeve. That would restore the uniform to the WW II configuration. The PT patch is correct on the left shoulder. An earlier posting has quoted the applicable regulation. |
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Posted on: Aug 14, 2008 - 5:34pm
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| I gave an incomplete answer regarding the Pharm. Mate. Both the PT patch and the Pharm. Mate patch would be worn on the left sleeve, with the PT patch near the shoulder where you have seen it in other pictures. |
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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 Posted on: Aug 14, 2008 - 6:24pm
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Thank You QM. I can now hit the sack with this burning question answered.............
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Dick
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Posted on: Aug 15, 2008 - 12:14am
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Not so fast Frank, get your old ass out of bed and wipe he sleep from your eyes - now is the Department of the Navy wrong or am I missing something here or am I just really missing something right in front of my eyes. As Detailed in an earlier post:
Petty Officer Rating Badge Locations and Eagle Designs
Boatswain's Mates, Gunner's Mates, Carpenter's Mates, Masters at Arms, Ship's Stewards and Ship's Cooks wore it on the right sleeve . . . .
while Quarter Masters, Quarter Gunners, Captains of the Forecastle, Captains of Tops, Captains of the Afterguard, Armorers, Coopers, Ship's Corporals and Captains of the Hold wore it on the left sleeve. . . .
It was difficult to distinguish between different ratings using this system.
Then later added: all - Right arm rates were disestablished 2 April 1949 -
Now searching the web I found WWII images with the Quartermaster rating on the left sleeve as well as on the right sleeve as if the rules were loose and fast. See the dress White below and the display case of a USS Texas crew member's uniform:
(I don't pretend to suggest these uniforms above are Quarter Masters uniforms - just a sample - one appears to be a Ship Fitter/Metalsmith and a Gunner's Mate.)
Okay, Frank you can go ahead and hit the sack now - just some thoughts
All the best,
Dick . . . .
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Posted on: Aug 15, 2008 - 12:45am
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This is great! There are more opinions and posts here than on whether or not Ballard found the 109!
Grandson of James J Stanton
RON 15 PT 209 and RON 23 PT 243
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: Aug 15, 2008 - 5:15am
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Ok, the sleep is removed from my eyes, and now I hope your happy because I am more confused then ever. Here we go again, God lets not mention Ballard and PT 109 because that will no doubt open up the flood gates............
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Posted on: Aug 15, 2008 - 8:09am
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HAHAHAHAHA!
Grandson of James J Stanton
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Dick
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Posted on: Aug 15, 2008 - 8:54am
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Frank, You should know better then to think something will really be resolved on this message board. Whenever you think it is, some one pokes a finger in your eye - 
However its always in good fun, at least I hope ! ! ! ! !
Have a good one . . . .
Dick . . . .
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Frank J Andruss Sr |
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Posted on: Aug 15, 2008 - 10:39am
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I love it, even if we all have differnt opinions. That's what makes the world go round. NOW BACK TO THE BURNING QUESTION,DID BALLARD FIND PT 109? JUST KIDDING...............
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Posted on: Aug 15, 2008 - 11:05am
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The gunners mate patch on the Texas is not a WWII patch. It is on the left sleeve with the eagle's head turned forward. On the earlier pictured QM patch on the left sleeve, the eagle's head is turned to the rear. That indicates that the QM patch was a WWII patch designed to be on the right sleeve where the eagle's head would be turned forward. It may have been permissible to use the old patch on the left after the change made to all left arm patches. On the newer patches the eagle's head is turned forward.
There is also a picture posted here with a right sleeve rate [QM] and a left sleeve rate [aviation]. The eagle's head on both is turned forward.
For the WWII rate patches an easy way to determine left or right, but probably not one hundred percent, is the skills used. Left arm rates involved skills which could be used in civilian life. Right arm rates were generally of no use in civilian life. |
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