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zeusbheld
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Posted on: Sep 29, 2014 - 5:25am
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Ted,
I'd like to see the 169 and 171 pics...
But really, Jerry's boat has to be the front runner.
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TED WALTHER |
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 Posted on: Sep 29, 2014 - 6:00am
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Jerry;
If you think that is bad, have you seen the "proposed" camo scheme that was supposed to resemble shallow water with coral tumps?
Zeus;
here is PT 169 and PT 171;
PT169 RON10 DEC1942 PORT BOW ON
PT 169 RON 10 DEC 1942 BOW ON
PT 169 RON 10 DEC 1942 PORT SIDE
/PT169 RON10 DEC1942 PORT STERN QUARTER
PT169 RON10 DEC1942 STBD BOW
PT 169 RON 10 DEC 1942 STBD side
PT 171 RON 10 DEC 1942 PORT STERN QUARTER
USS ATAOOSKA AO66 RON10 MARCH1943. Take your pick, according to NOB Norfolk War Diary for 14 MAR 1943, this ship got underway at 0820 with PT 165, PT 167(SCR-517 RADAR, FWD PORT SIDE), PT 171, PT 174, enroute to Naval Station Balboa, C.Z. PT171 Port side to camera.
USS ATASCOSAA O66 14 MARCH 1943 RON 10
DIV onboard. PT 174 Port bow to camera.
USS ATASCOSA AO66 14 MARCH 1943 #4 PT 174(aft), PT 171(fwd) to camera.
USS ATASCOSA AO66 14MARCH 1943 #3. PT 165(aft port) and PT 174 (aft stbd) and PT 171(fwd stbd) and PT 167(fwd port)
PT 167 (SCR-517A RADAR outboard stbd side to camera) AND PT 171(inboard ) ON BOARD USS ATASCOSA AO66 14MARCH 1943
Take care,
TED
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zeusbheld
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Posted on: Oct 1, 2014 - 4:25am
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Brilliant stuff, Ted! THANKS!
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Jeff D
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Posted on: Oct 1, 2014 - 4:57am
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Thanks from me too Ted, the mind boggles... and now I have a headache.
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Will Day
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Posted on: Oct 1, 2014 - 5:48pm
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Good stuff, Ted. Thanks.
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zeusbheld
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Posted on: Oct 12, 2014 - 1:54am
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This build (see link) has increased my enthusiasm for building a Plain Old Green or Grey boat. I'm aware it may not be the precise green one would want to paint an early-war PT, but...
Wow that's some nice weathering.
I've never seen a real PT but I've seen a lot of paint fade, chalk and weather in the tropical sun and what that guy did looks good. Only thing is, weathering-wise, there'd be a LOT more fading on the horizontal surfaces than verticals. I have a table that spent 2 months outdoors that'll testify to that.
http://www.thecombatworkshop.com/2013/08/revell-172-pt-boat-part-ii.html
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TED WALTHER |
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Posted on: Oct 12, 2014 - 7:57pm
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Wow! that boat looks rough, I think CDR Ritchie, would have that crew painting that boat real fast!
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TED
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David Waples |
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Posted on: Oct 12, 2014 - 9:43pm
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I have to be honest, those zebra PT's just make me want to hurl.
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zeusbheld
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Posted on: Oct 13, 2014 - 1:50am
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Wow! that boat looks rough, I think CDR Ritchie, would have that crew painting that boat real fast!
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Looking at anecdotes of how often boats were painted (and photos) i don't think it would get that far, but to my eye it's the right kind of weathering. That to me looks like about a year in tropical sun; the effect I'd go for based on what I've read is 3 months, 6 at most.
These are coastal boats, and went home to their base every night; it's not like the corvettes where they spent little time in port. That said I'd Imagine the Guadalcanal boats were in pretty rough shape, with some boats (PT-59 for example) doing double shifts. So I think when I know what boat I'm doing, and what it's situation at the time was, then I'll have an idea of how much weathering to do.
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TED WALTHER
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Posted on: Oct 13, 2014 - 7:08am
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Dave;
How could you say that about Frank's favorite! Seriously, when you look at the camo schemes that were developed but not used, you really have to wonder what goofballs approved this. Some of the ones not used would have achieved the same desired results and would been more effective than this, while being less conspicuous during all times of day and night. I have never had the opportunity to talk with a RON 10 Plankowner about this, I wonder what they thought of this camo? I know how guys from the other RON's thought about it, I have heard and read their opinions.
Take care,
TED
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