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 Author  Topic: Six part video of a man building PT109 diorama
David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Jan 19, 2008 - 9:22pm
I don't think you need this translated to figure it out. Most of what is shown in this video is not new. It's basically a silicon water diorama modified for a larger scale. Here's how I interpretate what he has done...

First he had a plan or a vision on how he wanted it to look.

1. He used common insulation foam as a foundation. He took pieces of foam to build up the larger features of the water such as bow waves.
2. He then mixed up a plaster and covered the foam base to make a hard shell, not unlike the techniques used in model railroading scenerey.
3. The water explosion looks like it was made of some sort of sculpy type clay.
4. The explosion was covered with silicon mixed with Tamiya white paint. The silicon mixture was basically just slopped on to the skeleton created by the sculpy type foundation and allowed to dry.
5. The base was painted blue/gray as a foundation color.
6. He mixed more silicon thoroughly with clear blue and clear green to form his water. He slopped it on and got the basic water shape he was looking for and then placed the model into it. He then added more of the silicon with white paint mixed in for his white water. This was blended with some additional clear silicon which gave the water movement.
7. This is my favorite part. He took white ground foam (woodland scenics snow) and sprinkled it over the white water areas. This gave the white water texture which is something I hadn't seen before. It works in this scale but probably wouldn't in smaller 1/350 and 1/700 scales. He also whipped up the white colored silicon mix behind the boat to give it a churning effect.

This was my favorite part of the whole video. I hadn't seen water scaled this well before. I'm going to have to give t his technique a try. I'm really impressed with just how well it came out.
Dave

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Ok Guys, now the big question. Which one of you is willing to try one of these for my Exhibit. I would love to have one no doubt. The water is so real, with the white waves and foam and explosions around the boat and even the way he made the boat and deck look wet with ocean spray. I think the 1/72 scale is perfect because it does not have to command much room and needs no large base. Anything larger, although easier to work with takes up a good deal of space. Doing one with updated weapons and parts and boat of your choice would be awesome............


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David Waples

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I honestly don't have time in my schedule to do it for you Frank. This is a long shot but you may consider asking Jeff Herne over at ModelX to put his boat in your exhibit. Here is the link for ModelX. He did the 596 boat in a water diorama and you can see it on his web site.

http://www.modelx.com/



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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Frank J Andruss Sr   Send Email To Frank J Andruss Sr Posted on: Jan 20, 2008 - 9:04am
David
Thanks for the heads up. I went to the web site you gave, but could only download the pilot issue, which does not show the PT BOAT he built. It does show a wonderful sub that he did, so I know his work is Museum quality. These are the times I wish I could do these things myself. If I could I would need another house to put all my PT BOATS into...........


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I need to call on Monday and suscribe.

Dave,
Thanks for the rundown on his water construction. I agree that most of it looked pretty common but didn't know what he was sprinkling on toward the end. For the gun splash, I wondered if he used an epoxy putty. What do you think?

I am really thinking hard about building a Revel boat with WEM PE of a mid-war boat with rool-off racks, 40mm, 37 mm and 20mm weapons and trying this water base idea. I've started looking for a subject boat. 191comes to mind. It has the right structure and weapons load plus I want to do a 5P paint scheme. I've started looking at photos in books and on line . This is how it starts. Lord save me.

Frank,
In looking through my stores, I just realized that I never sent you the poster I made of the 495. If you would still like to have it , send me your address and I'll get out to you. If its not something you would use, I'll hang onto it. Just let me know. It fit a standard 16 x 20 frame.

Ed


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David Waples

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Yes, this is exactly how it all starts. But that's okay. Worse things can happen to you.

I'm not familiar with the product he used for making the water explosion. It's called Artista Soft and seems to be a modeling paste mostly used for crafts. If you do a web search you will find it out there. I'm assuming it's the same stuff but with different packaging. It's probably lighter weight than an epoxy. It looks like it's worth experiementing with.

Better hit the sack.
Dave

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Thanks Dave.


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Hello
Your right that is one very nice diorama he's built there.
Some interesting technic's used.
Might have to give the explosion idea a try on a diorama some time.
As for my build I'm just finnishing off the final pieces now should hopefully be finnished by the weekend. I'll then post some pictures for you to see.


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