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Topic: Just Purchased PT Boat Presentation Piece |
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Jerry Gilmartin |
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 Posted on: Sep 10, 2017 - 10:56am
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Randy,
Looking at the photo of the bottom, it does look like the Engraved markings are different angles so that may mean they were done after the makers markings. The Gump markings are completely different.
Jerry Gilmartin
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Frank Andruss
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Posted on: Sep 11, 2017 - 9:53pm
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In looking at the underside of the piece more closely Jerry, the Gump stamp looks as though it was added at a later date, no doubt about it. The font is different as well.
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PRJM3
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Posted on: Sep 12, 2017 - 8:43am
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Yes, looking at the picture that Frank sent to me it does look like the Gump markings were done at a different time than the Apollo/Rice & Sons Markings. The Apollo markings and the Rice & Sons markings are very well aligned with each other and have the appearance of being done at the same time. As I previously mentioned, Apollo was a design house run by Rice & Sons so it's pretty much the same company.
The Apollo/Rice & Sons and Gump markings look like they were done with a stamp or press that makes all the letters at the same time. The numbers are slightly out of alignment which would indicate they were individually stamped. I've seen that misalignment on other individually numbered pieces associated with vintage cars.
The difference in the Gump markings supports my assumption that the pitcher was made on the east coast by Rice & Sons and made it to the west cast where it was later marked by Gump. I can't see them putting their mark on the pitcher for just selling it with no further work, and that would support their being the company that did the engraving. Of course that's all just a wild guess lacking any further firm information, but it raises a question if the timeline for the boat or crew ever crossed through San Francisco.
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