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 Author  Topic: BlueJacket Ship Crafters 1/48 80' ELCO
Bob Steinbrunn

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Bob Steinbrunn   Send Email To Bob Steinbrunn Posted on: Mar 20, 2016 - 11:05am
I haven't seen much mention of the 1/48 scale 80' ELCO by BlueJacket here, so I thought I'd post a few photos of the build. Designed by Al Ross II, the kit is intended for an experienced model builder, and it's a plus if that builder enjoys working in wood rather than plastic.

This kit is more challenging than, say, the 1/48 Merit injection-molded styrene kit, but with those challenges come great rewards when you feel you're putting more of yourself into the build and things work out to your satisfaction.

Here's the kit and its contents:



Here's the basic hull with the propellers, shafts, struts, and other details added such as the transom reinforcing angles, keel plate, hull discharge openings, saltwater intake and outlet scoops for the heat exchanger cooling system for the engines, the bilge self-bailing outlets, and three salt water intake grills for the heads. The basswood strips for the deck edge guard, chine guard, sheer clamp, and transom overhang have been added.



Next is a close-up of the props, shafts, struts, and rudders. Al advises the shafts entered the hull directly and the britannia bosses provided in the kit should not be used.



Last, no modeler can build an accurate model in a vacuum and it's folks like Al Ross II, Dick Washichek and his amazing DVD, Jeff Davidson's cornucopia of information and images on his pt103.com website, among others, who make all this possible. Finally, a tip 'o' the hat to Daniele Klay for helping out with the types and locations of the underhull fittings. Thanks, gentlemen!

Cheers!
--Bob

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Jeff D

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You are off to a great start Bob! Nice work on the edge bindings and all those little hull fittings.



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Daniele Klay

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Daniele Klay  Posted on: Mar 21, 2016 - 12:09pm
Hi Bob,nice work you've done,if you want some more info about lower hull details send me a e-mail and I'll be glad to share the limited knowledge I have gathered on the subject. othonvonsalsa@gmail.com
Regards

Daniele Kly

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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Mar 23, 2016 - 5:39am
Bob,
So glad to see you build this kit. I'm excited to watch you apply your skills to this one. Nice work with the vents and such on the hull bottom. I really like what you've done with the propeller shafts and supports.
Dave

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Bob Steinbrunn

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I'd like to make a public acknowledgement to Daniele Kly for his help in locating all the hull intakes and outlets, and offering constructive criticism of my first effort. This is the hull with primer and the white items are additional outlets and the propeller shaft stern tubes. Daniele indicates there are 20 underhull penetrations in all.

A tip 'o' the hat to Daniele, and to all the good folks on this forum who are so willing to share.



Cheers!
--Bob

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Jeff D

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Apr 25, 2016 - 2:22pm
Looking good Bob! Yes, Daniele does excellent research and as well as modeling.

Is that a raised rim around the shaft exits? I believe they should be flush.



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Capt Speirs

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Oh my, here we go again. More things to scratch build, I love it. Are there any detailed scale drawings available for these hull fittings? I am currently building the 109 in 1/35 scale.

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I'd like to make a public acknowledgement to Daniele Kly for his help in locating all the hull intakes and outlets, and offering constructive criticism of my first effort. This is the hull with primer and the white items are additional outlets and the propeller shaft stern tubes. Daniel indicates there are 20 underhull penetrations in all.

A tip 'o' the hat to Daniele, and to all the good folks on this forum who are so willing to share.



Cheers!
--Bob





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  Daniele Klay

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Daniele Klay  Posted on: Apr 25, 2016 - 10:58pm
Hallo Capt, this could help, you'll find some of my comments about hull fittings placement on Jeff D's site hull section. Note that PT109 will have a different arrangement of the lazarette bailer, and two gounding strips running parallel to the keel with 9"offsets.
Enjoy scratchbuilding, you'll have to display your model on a mirror to show the detail to good advantage.
Regards

Daniele Kly

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  David Waples

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Nice update Bob! She's really coming along. Can you share with us the process you went through to seal the hull and prime it? Also interested in the frame work around where the prop shaft exited.

Great reference photo Daniele! I added that one to my collection.

Dave

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Bob Steinbrunn

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Bob Steinbrunn   Send Email To Bob Steinbrunn Posted on: Apr 26, 2016 - 6:03am
Quote:

Looking good Bob! Yes, Daniele does excellent research and as well as modeling.
Is that a raised rim around the shaft exits? I believe they should be flush.




You are more than likely right, Jeff, and I applaud your sharp eye. I can't debate this with you since I stand in awe (well, I'm sitting, actually) of the CAD drawings you have on your pt103.com site. I'm using them for most of my waking hours as reference for detailing the BJ kit. Period photos take you only so far and can be very indistinct, so your renderings are nothing short of invaluable and priceless.

Having said that, the propeller shaft stern tubes you see here are only .020" thick, shaped from strip styrene, and duplicate those seen on both the 1/35 Italeri and 1/48 Merit kits. Call it artistic license, if you will, but I wanted them to be a little bit visible when viewing the underside of the hull as the model sits on its brass pedestals, and in this context the amount they stand proud is not very noticeable. Since Italeri (with David Waples input) saw fit to mold the stern tubes as raised from the hull, along with Merit, I suppose I felt comfortable doing the same. Anyway, that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it.

1/35 Italeri hull:



1/48 Merit hull:



Cheers!
--Bob

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