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 Author  Topic: Italeri 1/35 PT-105 Build - David Waples
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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Bob Butler  Posted on: May 3, 2013 - 6:44pm
David , keep up the good work, and keep posting your progress.


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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: May 3, 2013 - 7:15pm
Hi guys,

Stu, Glad I could bring some more joy into your project. :-) Fortunately it's easy to clean up that second band but I hate to see you have to cut into your finished tubes.

Frank. Yes, I'm going to add chain to the combustion chambers. The chain keeps that ignitor from falling into the water. It should make for a nice detail.

The 109 and 596 kits are of similar quality. The 109 kit is a step up in detail but many of the parts created for the 596 kit are reproduced in the 109 kit. This is a quality kit. Out of the box kits build into very nice representations of the actual boat. Is it perfect? No. But find any kit that is. As an example the Tamiya 1/32 P-51 which some say is the best kit ever produced has multiple parts that are being improved upon by after market companies. Remember, not everything can be produced as an injection molded kit.

We gave Italeri a lot of confusing information and in my opinion they gave us a great kit to work with. And they listened to us and accepted our advice. Again, out of the box it builds up very nice. The quality of the modeling is excellent. I've come across no fit issues. That said, Stu, Bob, myself, and others like to go the extra mile. That's true of modelers in all areas of interest. We've spent years studying photographs and drawings and guess what. After all that we still miss details, or better said discover new details hidden from us before. If Italeri were to devote the time and energy to produce a 100% perfect boat with every known possible detail, it would be a $600 to $800 kit. Maybe more. In such a small part of the market who would pay that? I applaud Italeri for attacking this niche market with wonderful 1/35 brown water kits. You'll be happy with either kit. An their other kits are equally as nice.

Okay, I'll get off my soap box now.

Dave



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  Stuart Hurley

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David,
Took a deep breath and went for it.

Best Regards,
Stu.





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David Waples

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Tonight I spent the evening finishing a detail on the top center of the torpedo tubes. I'm not sure what this thing is. It consists of a rectangular base plate that I made from .015 thick plastic. There is a .040 rod that comes up out of the center. Then I used .015 thick plastic and cut some 45 degree triangle pieces to form the ribs (for lack of a better word). I thought about using some Bronco plastic nuts but they were too big. I ended up using some simulated .85mm brass nuts from Scale Hardware which were very close to what I was looking for. Doing it again I think I might go the next size down on the nuts. I drilled .024 diameter holes and dropped all the nuts on their shafts into those holes and secured with CA. I like the final outcome.

You can also see a close up of the banding I applied to the tubes.

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The prototype...

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Dave, that work is amazing. I wish I could still see as good as I used to. Those parts are getting a bit to small for me these days. I'm switched more into the "speed building" these days as my projects and unbuilt kits seem to collecting faster.

Oh man I hope those are not pieces off the 103 boat in the last photo floating in the water.


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David, Please contact me, rbbutler@frontier.com. Bob


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David-That is very good detail work.

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Wasn't former (and future) actor Robert Montgomery at the wheel of the 103 when this damage was incurred?



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Here's an update. I thought with my wife out of town I would make more progress. Wrong! I'm not ready to show you the tubes yet. Still have a few things to work out there.

I corrected the hull bow to stern already. Now it's time to correct for deck arching. Here's the begining support structure I put in place. After it's good and dry I'll sand the arch into these cross beams. It occurred to me after I did all this work that I could place the beams deck edge height and then add shims in the middle to bring it to the proper arch. We'll save that for the next boat I guess. :-)

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Update:
Okay, I pronounce this a giant waste of time. It didn't work. The cross bars didn't give enough flexibility to the hull to allow the deck to fit correctly. So I'm cutting out all of these supports and I'll probably use Stu's method of using vertical poles from sprue to add rigidity to the deck.

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As you probably saw in Stu's boat the forward window on the day cabin requires lowering. I used Stu's method and cut the window out and slid it down to where it belongs. Then I added .40 sheet stock to replace what I cut out. I need to remove the bottom material once it dries overnight. Thanks Stu!

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The Elco factory drawings don't show a detail of the cockpit floor. Ted advised that the cockpit floor was fully covered with wood grate which was a carry over from the 77" Elco's. I picked up some wood grating material made of wood and available from Model Shipways. It goes together nicely and looks great. Sorry for the punn. Anyway, I cut out the kit part and filled the deck in flush with .040 plastic card. The grating is visible in this photo.

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That's all for now.
Dave

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  TED WALTHER

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Dave;
WHOA! Before Al reads this! You missunderstood me,
I stated that the 77" Elco had the entire cockpit floor like this, with the wood combing, and that the "little rectangle" of wood combing in front of the helm on the 80' Elco was a carry over idea from the 77' Elco.

I believe(my own idea here Dave) they went to the smaller rectangle, not only because of the smaller Coxswain flat area, but because from an operators stand point, I can see how small items could be dropped into that combing on the 77' Elco and the QM or whoever had to get down and dig through those little squares(I know it was a two peice removable item, but who is going to lift up that combing while underway?) to find whatever might have been dropped, especially at night! LOL!

However, With all of that said, you did do a nice job with the combing you have made, and it would set your model apart. Now cut it down to match the kits, molded piece. I see you bought it, so maybe it was not that bad or time consuming, I made mine from scratch, on my PT 48 and PT 59 models and it took about 3 hours for each!
Take care,
TED
P.S. I know they changed over to the rubber ribbed mat, I believe you said somewhere around PT 120-138? Well I think I am still going to keep it for my PT 596 and PT 599, even if it is incorrect, it just looks nicer.


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