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MN Gal

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These photo's I brought back from my trip to German Town TN,
They were tagged to be from the 156.

That has been questioned to be not correct.

Throwing this out to the message board for feedback on weather this photo could have been mis-marked.

Could this damage be from another PTBoat that was hit, and not the 156 ?

Julie



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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Julie

There is a photo in United States PT BOATS of WWII on page 140. This looks to be the same photo you have from a different angle, and is listed as PT-152. In checking my records, I have nothing that shows any gunner being killed on PT-156, nor for that matter being riddled like that in any actions. In checking At Close Quarters, on pages 381 and 382, this action is listed. In my opinion you have the photos from the damage to PT-152...................


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Frank;
I agree, PT 152 ("Lack-a-Nooky") RON 12 (ENS Herbert P. Knight, USNR, Skipper) , damaged during the Battle Leyte Gulf on the night of 24 - 25 October 1944 while operating agains enemy target in Surigao Strait, she was hit forward by a 4.7 inch shell from the Japanese destroyer Shigure, killing one man and wounding three others. On 27 October 1944, a
Mitsubishi A6M Zero (or "Zeke") dropped a fragmentation bomb off the bow of PT-152. Two men died and eight were wounded.
Take care,
TED



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TED WALTHER

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Frank;
I was in a rush while at work, I did a double check and Ens. Herbert Knight had been relieved by this time, the skipper of PT 152 during the battle of Leyte Gulf was Lt. (jg.) Joseph A. Eddins USNR.
Sorry for the slip up.
Take care,
TED


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Julie, Frank & Ted,

'At Close Quarters' shows the same photo as in 'US PT Boats of WW II', a slightly different angle from the photo of 152 Julie found at HQ.

What does her second photo show, I can't figure it out !

Steve

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Steve

Good question. I can see the inner hatch in the upper right corner of the photo, but darn if I can tell what this is. It seems to be more damage then what was caused by that 4.7 inch shell that exploded over the deck.


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I turned the photo around a few times, then spotted upper light . If turned right, this is the Crews Quarters, with damage seen on upper decking, hatch leading to Galley. This is also most likely interior damage shot of PT-152.


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The second photo has been rotate clockwise 90 degrees.
Dick . . . .



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Thanks Dick, still sticking to this as Crews Quarters and Hatch leading to the galley..........


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Hi Julie,
These photos are definitely both from the PT152 after being hit by the 4.7 inch shell from Japanese Destroyer. I think we should mention that the 37mm gunner, MoMM3/c Charles F. Midgett was killed during this blast. It appears to me that photo taken on the inside of the boat is showing the same damage as seen from up near the crews head in the bow. The little passageway just outside the head that leads back to the Crews Quarters is the door you can see.
Here is the Excerpt from "At Close Quarters" concerning the PT152 Jerry

The 152 was not so fortunate. A 4.7-inch shell tore away the 37mm. gun from the bow, fatally wounded the gunner, stunned the loader, and set fire to the boat. The destroyer bore down on the 152, spotting it in a searchlight beam. "Enemy destroyer sheared off when PT 152 dropped two depth charges set at 100 feet," Eddins reported, "and return 40mm. PT fire made enemy reluctant to continue use of searchlight."

The chase lasted for 23 minutes. Just before it broke off, the last two ships of Admiral Nishimura's fleet appeared on the radar. The PT's had been unable to reach friendly forces by radio before the action; after it their radios were out of commission, damaged by the concussion of bursting shells. Lieutenant Malcolm, finding that the 152 had become separated from the group, took the 130 and 131 southward until he found Lt. (jg.) John A. Cady's section of PT's near Camiguin Island. He boarded Ens. Dudley J. Johnson's PT 127, and at 0010 the 127 made the first radio report of the position, course, and speed of the enemy ships.

Aboard the 152, the crew put out the fire and surveyed the damage. The bow was stove in, but the boat could still make 24 knots. Pullen tried for an hour to close the enemy for a torpedo attack, but the ships were making at least 22 knots and he could not overtake them

Forward deck of PT 152, showing effect of enemy 4.7-inch shell in the Battle of Surigao Strait. (80-G-345822)



Here is the PT152 Action report from Mark Douglas' PT127 website





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