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Frank J Andruss Sr

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For some reason I just noticed in Johnson's Book, a photo that I was curious about. I had seen this photo a million times, so why I am asking this question is beyond me. Page 39 shows 2 PT BOAT crew with Pith Helmets on. They have a bucket and are posing next to the MOSQUITO FLEET emblem on the side of the forward cabin. The caption claims they are in New York, but I was wondering why these two guys have full beards growing. Although a supposed peace time photo, why are they allowed to have beards in the US NAVY. Does this photo all add up, or am I wrong.................


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Drew Cook

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Maybe they were some of Admiral Zumwalt's boys, thrown back through a time warp...?


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Frank J Andruss Sr

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You could be right, LMAO. I just really wonder about that photo.................


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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Hi Frank,
When I was on active duty on USS Long Beach CGN9 in 1984-1985 timeframe I remember being allowed to wear a beard, Then one day we received a directive from above that the new regulations did not allow beards anymore for shipboard personnel due to their interference with the fit of the Mark V gas mask. I remember my division CPO, Pete Sise who had an EPIC red beard and showed up to muster the next day with a clean shaven face and a large white streak where his beard used to be. That image seared the event into my memory. So at least from the time period of the mid 1960s to 1985 beards were allowed by enlisted men in the USN. IS that not your recollection for WW2 regulations? Maybe Ted would know? Jerry

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29navy

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From the 1940 & 1943 Bluejackets's Manual:

The hair, beard and mustache must be worn neatly trimmed. The face must be kept clean shaved, except a mustache or beard and mustache may be worn at discretion. No eccentricities in the manner of wearing the hair, beard or mustache are allowed.


I know when I was at Navy OCS in 1979, beards were allowed. But the CO said "Sure, you can have a beard, but you'll never get a 4.0 on inspection." So it was at your discretion.



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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Thanks guys, I was always a bit curious, and this answers my question..............


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TED WALTHER

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I agree with Jerry and Charlie. While I was still a kid, I remember seeing beards on enlisted me and Junior officers(though not as often, usually only Mustangs), when my Dad would take me to the base exchange or commissary in the 1970's. I also remember seeing photos in my Bluejackets Manual, when I arrived at bootcamp in Sept 1984.
Take care,
TED


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CJ Willis

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In Ron 19 we enlisted men were not allowed to have beards however the Exec.Officer of the Squadron Lt. Commander George Bracket had a beard. He is the only person that I can remember in Ron 19 with a beard. When we berthed at Vella La Vella with Kennedy's 59 boat. I recall a couple of their crewmen with beards.

I forgot to add that I was not old enough back then to have a beard.

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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Hey CJ! You are still not old enough to have a beard! hah hah! Jerry

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In the book Tales of Tulagi by Jack Searles of Guadalcanal fame, there is a photo of both Jack and his brother Bob wearing full beards--they started growing them shortly after their arrival in the Solomons, but they both shaved them off around the first week of December 1942.

Of course, one must remember this was in the combat zone...

Gene K.


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