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 Author  Topic: Interior color of .50 Cal Turrets
Jeff D

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Jun 20, 2011 - 8:18am
I trust you Jerry. I've changed my turret graphic to Day-Glo Orange inside and out. I must say it looks real good and blends well under a canopy of citrus. The aft section could also use some color so I may go with the red-as..., er, stern, painted hull also.



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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Jun 20, 2011 - 11:31am
Thanks you guys. Hey Will , I think I am going to go out and get a day-glo orange jumpsuit for next time I manthe 50 cal turret on PT658. I just hope the local Police Officers dont get the wrong idea! Jerry

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Jeff D

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Jun 20, 2011 - 1:17pm
Here Jerry, try my Elco on for size:





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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Jun 20, 2011 - 1:43pm
Say Jeff,
I think we may have something here! Kind of like the Red Baron idea, paint the whole boat outlandish colors then just dare somebody to shoot at our boat! Yeah thats the ticket! Jerry

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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Jun 20, 2011 - 8:20pm
Hi Greg,
If you're still with us, and who would blame you if you weren't, I'll try to help. I'm looking at a photo of an aft turret interior in Victor Chun's book. It's dark (not white) which is all we can tell from the black and white photo. Al Ross' book shows a 77' Elco where the turret walls are white. PT interiors were painted white. This before the turret ring was dropped in. So even if the interior was white it would be hard to see once the turret ring is dropped in. So depending on the boat, the time, and the color I suspect you could have numerous options. Before the 109 was green she was most probably dark gray and who knows, they could have just left the turret interior dark gray after painting the rest of the boat green. It's just something we will never know unless somebody who was there can educate us.

For your model I would recommend either going with a dark gray or darken up your turret color considerably. Me personally, I would go with the latter. If you look at photos of these turrets light is trapped in there and you will want it to be much darker that it was actually painted on the exterior anyway.

I hope that helps. I hope you will share your finished model with us.

Dave

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Dave,

I'm still here, just didn't see the need to reply to the smart-a$$ replies. As for your answers, this part of your reply here is what I was thinking.

(Before the 109 was green she was most probably dark gray and who knows, they could have just left the turret interior dark gray after painting the rest of the boat green. It's just something we will never know unless somebody who was there can educate us.)

Also, I really wasn't talking about deep inside the turret, although my question was a bit vague. I was thinking more about the interior part that can be seen. Where the ammo was stored for the .50 cals. I don't have a camera so I can't really post a pic of what i'm talking about.

Anyway, I'm doing one of the early 80-foot boats. So it's quite possible that the boat was painted gray then overpainted green in the field.

Since it's my model and no one really has a definite answer I'll probably paint it the way I want it.

Just thought I would ask here first before deciding on a course.

Also, I will try to post pictures of the model here when it's done. I'll have to
borrow a camera. However, I am a very slow builder so who knows when
the thing will be completed.

The more I modify/change/correct the more things I find that need to be
modified/changed/corrected. It's like a never ending story.

Thanks,
GregB


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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Jun 21, 2011 - 11:14am
Sorry Greg,
I was not trying to be a smart a$$. Just having a little fun. Jerry

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of GregB  Posted on: Jun 21, 2011 - 11:24am
Jerry,

No offense taken. I realize one has to have thick skin posting on a message board these days. I just choose to ignore the ones that aren't related to my original question. Life is too short to get uptight about these things.

Thanks,
GregB


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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Buck   Send Email To David Buck Posted on: Jun 21, 2011 - 5:27pm
Hi GregB,
A little while ago number of colour photos were posted of the PT 61, two of these photos show the top interior visible area of the gun tubs, I know this is a 77' Boat but she is shown alngside an 80 ' and is painted green as is the 80' Boat, hope this helps a little.

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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Jun 21, 2011 - 7:15pm
Greg,
Was there a specific boat you wanted to model? Here's some information that was included in my 1:48 PT-103 class instructions curtesy of Dr. Ross. South Pacific color schemes for early Elcos....

1. Standard Gray - Everything from the deck up Dark Gray 5D. The hull excluding the deck Light Gray 5. You see this on early boats coming out of the factory.

2. Measure 1 - Dark Gray 5D throughout. There's color photos supporting this.

3. Tropical Green - This was a field created green color which is similar to 5NG but different. It looks to me like it has a hint of turquoise but understand that there is probably some color shifting that has occurred. The color photo referred to earlier of the 77' Elco's next to the green 80' Elco is attached. The green boat on the starboard side was reported to be PT-109 by Mr. Prescott who served on this 77' Elco. This is very controversial but if you go with a green similar to 5NG I think you'll be happy with your results... if you want a green boat. You be the judge.

Note: The photos as originally posted are more clear than my copies below. Worth a look to find them in the forum.

I hope that helps. Have fun with your build.
Dave







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