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 Author  Topic: Interior color of .50 Cal Turrets
TGConnelly

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 19, 2011 - 10:04am
Well,

If one goes by the photo alluded to by Jeff, I'd say that the interior would be the same color as the rest of the boat. I said that based on what I saw in that photo and nothing more. Essentially, going by PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE ...

That said, I have NEVER seen a photo of the interior so, understandably, I don't know what to say. I can only comment and only feel confident in commenting on what I saw and gleamed from that color photo.

Take my comment for what it's worth and in the SPIRIT of which I made it. I'm just trying to help.

Garth

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The pt103.com site is mine Greg, but I'm not sure what the interior color of the turrets was as manufactured or after repainting in the field. I made it the same as the exterior.

The only color information I've found was from a build manual for the 565-624 boats which can be viewed at http://www.hnsa.org/doc/pt/specs/index.htm#pg13:

Superstructure shall be primed and finished with three coats formula 511 special haze gray, final coat in accordance with latest camouflage instructions. Decks shall be primed, fastening holes filled with Navy formula 62 smoothing cement Navy Dept. Spec. 52C25 and finished with two coats nonskid deck paint, in accordance with latest camouflage instructions.

The only color photo of a turret interior I've seen shows an earlier series Elco with the limiting stop interior painted the same as the exterior. It can be seen at http://www.ptboats.org/cgi-local/sitenetbbs/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=567&sc=20&pg=1&x=0

Hopefully a veteran can help us out.








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CJ Willis

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of CJ Willis  Posted on: Jun 19, 2011 - 10:49am
Bridge: As for "hiding a PT." Most of the time we never knew enemy planes were around until they would drop a bomb on you. You cannot see a unlighted plane at night unless they are between you and the moon and the Japs made sure they didn't get between you and the moon. We were bombed several times while patroling up around Rabaul. Fortunately they all missed the boat. Our proceedure was to get underway full speed and zig zag to a rain cloud in the area if one was around. I recall being bombed one morning leaving the patrol area. We
had just gotten underway cruising. I had laid down on my life jacket on the bow to get a little sleep. The bomb hit off the starboard bow close enough to splash water over the bow and get me wet. We never heard or saw the plane. I never did get my nap in that morning.

I believe the inside of my turret and ammunition boxes were painted green. That was the color that came from Higgins. We never repainted the inside of the turrets while I was aboard 242.

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TGConnelly

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 19, 2011 - 11:02am
So, Mr. Willis?

You're saying that the interior of the turrets were the same color of the boats, sir?

Garth


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CJ Willis

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Garth: Our boat was two shades of green camoflage. I believe the turrets were the darker shade.

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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Jun 19, 2011 - 3:48pm
Hey wait a minute!
I thought they painted the interior of the gun turrets the same color green as the PT109? Can we please have another pointless arguement that will go on forever like that one did? Please? Maybe Day-Glo Orange would work best. I think the gunner would stand out as a target really good that way. Safe to assume they were same inside and out, whether or not you have photographic evidence of it. Sheesh. Modelers. Jerry

OK maybe I am venting just a little bit. Sorry

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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Jun 19, 2011 - 3:48pm
Hey wait a minute!
I thought they painted the interior of the gun turrets the same color green as the PT109? Can we please have another pointless arguement that will go on forever like that one did? Please? Maybe Day-Glo Orange would work best. I think the gunner would stand out as a target really good that way. Safe to assume they were same inside and out, whether or not you have photographic evidence of it. Sheesh. Modelers. Jerry

OK maybe I am venting just a little bit. Sorry

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Will Day

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Oh come on, Jerry! If we don't know what color the turret interiors are, how are we going to coordinate the gunners' outfits?

Will

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Just shoot me......................



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Will Day

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LOL!

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TGConnelly

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Jun 20, 2011 - 6:42am
I tend to agree with Jerry ...

BUT ... There are modelers out there who do want 110.9999999% accuracy ...

Mr. Willis, I just want to thank you for answering my question.

It's my opinion, and it's ONLY an opinion ...

In regard to things like the interior colors of the turrets, I think modelers should use a common sense rule of them. Consider how much of the object is visible, would/could be visible and strive to get it as accurate as you can, ....

If you or others can't see it without the use of a microscope or microcamera ... don't worry about it ...

Though ... I am sure that SOME here will blast me for that opinion because as a published author, I'm purported to be an "expert" ... All I'm saying is don't go overboard ...

Garth


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