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Dick

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I have finally restarted my Elco 77' drawing project. This time I have more technical info available, allowing for greater drawing details then shown in the early cut-away drawing I completed in 1998. However, this project is actually progressing slowly because of the quality of the detailed Elco drawings (microfilm scans) and lack of accuracy from drawing to drawing. Below is a sampling of boat compartments currently in-work.

All the best,
Dick . . .





Galley Area:






Officers Head / Armory / Radio Room:






Officer Quarters, with Port, 2 Center and Starboard berthing area. The lower Center Starboard Berth area is also Ammunition Storage.






Fuel Tanks:







Old 1998 Cutaway Drawing:




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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Wonderful job as always Dick. These should prove to be very valuable to those who model these boats. One day, I would like to have Stan do a cutaway boat to show the inside of the boats, and these drawings will be a huge and important part of that project. Again Dick, Wonderful job at this atage of the project..............


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Looking great, Dick. True artistry......

Will

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Hadly

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Dick, I always love your drawings, they alwways provide so much information you don't see in multiple photos. They always give a great overall look inside these boats most of us have no clue look like. I proudly have all your 3-d posters.
SH


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I agree with Hadly Dick, your drawings really explain the inner workings of the boats so well. I look forward to seeing the finished project.

It's a shame about the quality of some of the drawings. But I have faith in you brother!



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Way to go buddy.All the comments are right on sir.How you get those flat views in to a picture view is really neat.
BJO


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77 s are my favorite. Sweet!


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Hello Dick
Great work, as usual! Regarding the Elco microfilm that you used, I was wondering if you could tell me if it came from the batch that I had donated to HQ quite a few years ago. As I hadn't reviewed evey film strip, I was never sure if the file included 77' drawings. My family would be gratified to learn if the donation had resulted in some greater benefit to the community. Too bad, though, that the quality wasn't the best.
Regards,
Ed B


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Dick

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Hi Ed . . .

I barrowed the microfilm from Al Ross, and had it scanned. The quality issue is two-fold. One was the U.S. Navy did an absolute terrible job filming the engineering drawings, the old phrase comes to mind "it's good enough for government work". Secondly the age of the film and its developing process is seriously deteriorating the quality of the images. Modern day technology is better, but nothing is as good as good old electronically digitized images.

I wasn't aware HQ even had microfilm reels until just very recently. I'm afraid it will be suffering the same ailment. I have been talking with Alyce about loaning them to me to determine what could be scanned or what would be a waste of money - but that subject hasn't been resolved as of yet.

The Archives has the main Elco 77' reel labeled as "310", I'm not sure if there are others, there should be many more if all drawings were microfilmed. For a project of that size there should two to three thousand drawings including engineering control records.

The Elco 80' had five reels found, but again there should be at least another half to full dozen reels floating around the NARA, somewhere. The Higgins and Huckins microfilm still proves to be mystery to me, specially the Huckins.

Dick . . .

PS: Thank you to everyone for your nice comments.




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Dick
I'm not sure if it was you or someone else that I mentioned this to several years ago, but the film I gave Alyce was not on reels, they were film strips (35mm?) about 6" in length, individually wrapped in paper sleeves, probably only half a dozen drawings per strip. I doubt the total number of drawings was in the thousands, and I know most were 80' prints, 103 series I believe, but I'm also pretty sure there may have been some others. At one point I did view about a dozen of the strips myself on a film reader, and recall the quality being excellent. I don't know how Alyce catalogs this stuff, but if you remind her it was part of a much larger donation from "Elco Ed", I think she would remember. The unusual thing about it is I believe the film was produced by Elco in their photo shop, not by the Navy, so it may be worth checking out.


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