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» Topic: OK, let's play I SPY with this Bastia photo...
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I spend a lot of time scouring photographs for something I haven't seen before - armament details, boat numbers, faces of the crew, etc. It helps date the photo, share it with family of the crew - you get the idea.

Steve Nugent (Nuge210) sent me this photo from 1944 Bastia showing a nest of Ron 15 and 22 boats. So, as a I scour this photo I come across an item that I would never expect to see on board a PT - but with the down time the men had, doesn't surprise me. Can you spot it?

HINT: it is not a military issue item to PT crews, and has no military application for PT sailors.

[IMaGe]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e362/newsnerd99/bastia.jpg[/IMaGe]

Grandson of James J Stanton
RON 15 PT 209 and RON 23 PT 243
Check out: www.pistolpackinmama.net


Posted By: newsnerd99 | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 2:22am
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I can't spot it ( must be the older eyes ) although I do love the clothes line strung up from the gun suppresser rail forward. Lots of dirty laundry on that line.



Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 3:57am
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I'd say its the brassiere on the clothes line.

natsmith

Posted By: Nathaniel Smith | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 4:25am
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Nathaniel - you win the prize!

Frank...we'll give you honorable mention for spotting the laundry, but skipping past the 36DD undergarment.

I wonder what's up with that? I've heard some stories of the "fun" the guys had in town - or could it be something less "devious" like hiring a local woman to do laundry - and she does her's at the same time?

Still - it gave me a good laugh to come across a bra on the line!

Grandson of James J Stanton
RON 15 PT 209 and RON 23 PT 243
Check out: www.pistolpackinmama.net


Posted By: newsnerd99 | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 4:35am
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That's one hell of a BRA!! I thought it was 2 gunney sacks when I first spotted it, which was why I never even thought of a BRA..... Would love to have met the gal that fit into that monster, must have been lined with rebar...........



Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 5:53am
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More than a handfull is wast... er... never mind. I think there may be ladies present.

What caught my attention was the visibility of the hull planking on the 204 boat. Also there's now a crew member to be found anywhere.

That's a great photo.

Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 7:53am
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The area must have been secured, because one well placed bomb, would have taken out most of the boats in the photo. Good eyes Dave, you are correct in that no Crewmembers are present in the photo. They must have been visiting that gal with the huge BRA!!!



Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 8:38am
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Don't really think it is a bra. There are no side straps and the right "cup" is tied to the line with a string. OF course, one can only hope....



Charlie

Posted By: 29navy | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 5:05pm
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SORRY CHARLIE MIGHT BE RIGHT!
I NOW THINK IT IS TWO WHITE HATS WITH STRING RUN THROUGH THE HATS INSIDE TAG. MY BOOT CAMP WHITE HATS HAD LOOPED TAGS.
THERE WAS ALOT OF WISHFUL THINKING GOING ON HERE THOUGH.
TAKE CARE,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 7:59pm
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OKAY - Just for fun and for the conspiracy theorists

[b]"The Conspiracy Theory"[/b]

If you look to left at the grassy knoll - just fun ‘in . . . .

For the real conspiracy theorists and the real eagle eyes; if you look hard enough and behind the bra, to the left, a pair of white nurses hose. Just to the right of those, a white garter belt to hold up the hose. With the “piece de resistance” – to the right of the bra, a white nurses slip. Waaa La! The whole shoot’n match. Hopefully somewhere in this white mess must be the white nurses dress and white nurses cap.

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/bastia5.jpg[/image]




[b]BUT THEN MORE SERIOUSLY – [/b]The image below does place a little doubt into the mysterious “Bra Capper”, we will have to wait for Sam Spade or better yet, Humphrey Bogart to enter the case . . . . . . “The Maltese Bra, from Bastia”


[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/bastia7.jpg[/image]



Enjoy
Dick . . . . .






Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Jul 1, 2008 - 10:19pm
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Dick...I thought I had a good laugh until your post - then I really let loose!

Hilarious - yet pretty accurate. That looks like a dress or a slip off to the right!

Grandson of James J Stanton
RON 15 PT 209 and RON 23 PT 243
Check out: www.pistolpackinmama.net


Posted By: newsnerd99 | Posted on: Jul 2, 2008 - 12:25am
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Great posts Fellas,Bloody Funny .I wonder if these boaties know what sinister happenings went on where they are moored now.LOL

[image]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/aust_yank/250px-Corse-bastia-port-ciel-brumeu.jpg[/image]

Michael

Posted By: Michael | Posted on: Jul 2, 2008 - 1:33am
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Mike

Thanks for that wonderful NOW photo. It looks like it never changed from 1945. You can clearly see the twin towers of the CHURCH. Do you have better photo's of how it looks now. Plus, the color shots really show how the building looked then, although I am sure they may have been updated or painted since then..........



Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jul 2, 2008 - 3:33am
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I have a 1988 picture of the area and it looks virtually the same. Even the laundry hanging out the windows of the buildings. I'll find it for you guys.

As many times as I've looked at that shot, I never noticed the bra !!! Thanks for posting Jim, I haven't figured that out yet.

Steve Nugent



Posted By: Nuge210 | Posted on: Jul 2, 2008 - 3:43am
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I've been reading this board for sometime now. I find it very educational and informative and at times very hilarious, some of you guys are crazy. In the good sense that is. This "Bra Caper" is outrageous, I've been splitting my side.

You guys have more fun, more informative and aren't afraid to share PT Boat information or your humor. Thanks to it's members, Vets, modelers, and enthusiasts.

Can't wait to see what develops on this caper!





Posted By: Black Ops | Posted on: Jul 2, 2008 - 12:05pm
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Here ya go Frank,
A few more shots of Bastia today.No wonder they chose it for a nesting area,looks nice and safe.(as safe as it could be in those times!)
Cheers Mate.

[image]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/aust_yank/limg-13227033.jpg[/image]

[image]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/aust_yank/limg-17844638.jpg[/image]

[image]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/aust_yank/limg97595487.jpg[/image]

Michael

Posted By: Michael | Posted on: Jul 2, 2008 - 6:09pm
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Mike

Thanks so much for the great photo's. I can almost see those PT BOATS still nestled in the area. Hey, if you look up at one of the outside porches, I think I see that Bra, Slip, and towel slung over one of the Banisters, drying in the breeze..........



Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jul 2, 2008 - 8:39pm
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After searching the internet for hours I came up with these interesting photos from WWII and Bastia. The first two are images I transfered to PhotoBucket because of the PT Boat interest.

This first photo shows many PT's nested in the Bastia harbor and after a close look (no, no bras were found) I noticed the long Mark VIII torpedos at the bottom of the photo. Then notice the PT boat in the foreground had the VIII's loaded into their roll-off racks. Further study found three boats with the Thunderbolt gun systems installed on the aft of each boat. See second photo for closer look.

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/bastiaPT-01.jpg[/image]

Closer Look at boats with Thunderbolt gun Systems

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/bastiaPT-02.jpg[/image]



A link directly to the "Axis History Forum", Subject: Bastia - with some interesting photos - Hope you all enjoy . . .

[url]http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=136361&start=15[/url]



Dick . . . .






Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Jul 3, 2008 - 12:26am
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I like that photo a lot Dick - that'd have to be taken in May, June or July of 1944 (based on the Mark VIII's and the Thunderbolt's being in the same photo - they only overlapped for a short while.) I was amazed reading the action reports that Ron 15 was still using Mark VIII's that late in the war - even after the roll off racks were installed. At Close Quarters mentioned using the torp's to attack harbor installations (just aim at the harbor entrance and fire) but PT 209 had them on racks during combat patrols in July.

Michael - great pics! Nuge210 sent me these two photos from his father's collection - the first one from 1988. Steve's note: "The two low buildings, right of center, were the base force buildings."

[IMaGe]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e362/newsnerd99/bastia1988.jpg[/IMaGe]

This other one is a pretty early photo; Steve wrote: "This is a shot of the 216 and two other Ron 15 boats, nested at the far side of the Old Harbor. My Dad said it was the only picture he ever saw of the boats there. You can see where the base force buildings are on the left, and the sunken ship the Germans scuttled in an attempt to block the entrance to the New Harbor, back to the right."

[IMaGe]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e362/newsnerd99/bastiaoldharbor.jpg[/IMaGe]

And welcome to Black Ops! I've have a lot of fun on this board because of the sense of humor everyone has. It's a great forum for learning...don't lurk anymore - join in the conversation!

Grandson of James J Stanton
RON 15 PT 209 and RON 23 PT 243
Check out: www.pistolpackinmama.net


Posted By: newsnerd99 | Posted on: Jul 3, 2008 - 2:10am
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