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PT-BOAT INSTRUMENT CLUSTER - NOS
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WW-2 U.S. NAVY PT-BOAT INSTRUMENT CLUSTER,original surplus is listed on Ebay. Not mine, I promise. Just thought you may be interested seeing one up close.
Harvey Wheeler
Posted By: Old LeadBottom | Posted on: Sep 6, 2019 - 8:06am
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[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/Offers-WW-2-U-S-NAVY-PT-BOAT-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-original-surplus-Higgins-Elco/123897780149?has[/url]h=item1cd8e217b5:g:sr0AAOSwjPFdccJI
Might work - Looks very nice, Don't know if it is $9500 dollars nice though.
Rick Schaefer Splinter
TM2c John E Mirus
Solomon Islands
Dec 43 - Jan 45
PT-107 Dec '43-April '44 PT-63 April '44-June'44 PT-108 June '44-Nov '44
Posted By: rickas | Posted on: Sep 6, 2019 - 4:24pm
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Very cool, thanks guys. I'm going to go put my firstborn up for sale on craiglist for funding, wish me luck.
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Sep 7, 2019 - 4:57am
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I believe this is a standalone 565-624 panel.
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Sep 7, 2019 - 8:39am
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That is cool as hell, and in perfect shape, too. The Ebay photo definitely goes into my Pictures file, and I'd love to have that on the wall of my study.
Can't afford it, though.[:-rdo-:].
Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Sep 7, 2019 - 12:22pm
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This looks like the actual item. I compared it to the one we have mounted aboard PT658 and it is identical except on the PT658 panel, the 3 manifold pressure gages are mounted on the top row and the Tachometers are on the bottom row. Maybe Elco has it the way shown on the ebay photos?
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Sep 7, 2019 - 8:59pm
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Yes Jerry, as far as I can tell all the Elco 80's had the tachs on top. This is PT 613. I see the ebay MPs go higher, 75 as opposed to 50 in the 613 photo:
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Sep 8, 2019 - 4:13am
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This photo of a PT 625 Class from [url]https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/NH-71000/NH-71661.html[/url] shows the MPs on the bottom. I've also noticed that the needles on some MP gauges at rest read ambient pressure while some point straight down. Mechanical vs electrical gauges maybe?:
Thanks Jerry, I didn't know that both Higgins and Elco used the same panels.
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Sep 8, 2019 - 4:33am
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I wonder if it is a part that was supplied by Packard? Since it is for the Packard engines that would make sense.
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Sep 8, 2019 - 1:04pm
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Just set up a Go Fund Me page.
David Waples
Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Sep 8, 2019 - 9:10pm
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Good thought David. If all my friends, plus one more, contribute $9,500 each, it could be mine!
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Sep 9, 2019 - 2:35am
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Oh come on Dave, I just set up a Go Fund Me page as well for it along with the rest of my Exhibit
Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Sep 9, 2019 - 12:11pm
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IF ONLY EITHER ONE OF YOU HAD ANY FRIENDS....
Will
Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Sep 10, 2019 - 5:06pm
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No problem Will, I accept Visa, Mastercard, gold bullion, and enemy cash.
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Sep 11, 2019 - 2:37am
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Just as random observations, the manifold pressure gauges on the cluster on ebay all say "Inches Mercury Absolute" on their faces in what appears to be raised black letters below the needle pivot point. There are three pipe/tubing connections on the unit that would indicate three mechanical boost gauges, however two gauges show ambient pressure and one less than ambient but not zero. There's clearly a defective gauge that warrants a price reduction. That may get the purchase within the range of some members GoFundMe efforts and/or the number of friends they'll need. I jest about the price reduction of course, but now I'll spend the day wondering why one gauge would read low.
Randy McConnell (Randall J. McConnell III)
Posted By: PRJM3 | Posted on: Sep 11, 2019 - 8:16am
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I think the gage merely needs a calibration adjustment. All gages require that from time to time to maintain accuracy. I would bet these gages have never been calibrated since they were manufactured. I used to do exactly this job when I was on active duty. We had a Gage Calibration Shop and had a tracking system to keep up with all the gages we had to calibrate. Literally hundreds on a large ship. Anyway that is a good catch but in reality I don't think it is any defect in the gage itself.
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Sep 12, 2019 - 1:39pm
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The price has been lowered from $9500 to $7500 with 0 bids so far.
Former crew member of the Big Blue Sightseer ex-PT 486
Posted By: Gerry McGovern | Posted on: Sep 13, 2019 - 6:14am
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Down to a starting bid of $3500.00 as of the 15th.
Harvey Wheeler
Posted By: Old LeadBottom | Posted on: Sep 15, 2019 - 11:58pm
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