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hello,
registerend yesterday to this forum.
in 2012 I started a pt Elco in a duo build with a vosper .
The Vosper got finished but midway building the Elco dropped 2 metre of a shelf.
it got put aside.
Now I'm restoring and trying to get it finished.
it's going to be a RON 35 boat 1944 D-Day and beyond
here is 1 pic to see if it gets accepted.


cheers,
Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 - 2:27am
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Tom;
WELCOME ABOARD!!! Your model looks good despite having been dropped, do you have any more photos?? What RON 35 boat is it going to be?
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Dec 29, 2018 - 1:13pm
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hi Ted,
thanks for the welcome, above are a few photos of the boat as it is now and 1 the last as it was before the drop.
I'm trying to do the 518 RON 35 .
but I do have difficulty finding a good photo of the foredeck gun layout.
I know that at some time it had a 20mm and a 37mm but how they where placed I don't know.
at the moment I'm changing the port side to an older locker outside the wheelhouse.
cheers, Tom

Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Dec 29, 2018 - 2:59pm
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am








hi Ted,
thanks for the welcome, above are a few photos of the boat as it is now and 1 the last as it was before the drop.
I'm trying to do the 518 RON 35 .
but I do have difficulty finding a good photo of the foredeck gun layout.
I know that at some time it had a 20mm and a 37mm but how they where placed I don't know.
at the moment I'm changing the port side to an older locker outside the wheelhouse.
cheers, Tom





Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Dec 29, 2018 - 3:29pm
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Hi Tom,

The pic Ted posted of PT-518 and PT-515 at Portland Bill shows the same line up of boats as this one. PT-518 and PT-515 are in the second row :

[img]https://i.imgur.com/BKn2wGf.jpg[/img]

It looks as if there is only a 20mm Oerlikon on the port side of PT-518's foredeck. That is, if the 37mm guns didn't have the curved handle bars.Looking forward to seeing pics of your progress on the build.

Groet,

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 12:20am
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm



Welcome Tom!



Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 1:46am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am



thanks Dale.
Arjan I'll will show the progress, but it will be irregular.
But have some photos from de locker.






hope this works again.

cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 4:24am
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Arjan and Tom;
Excellent work!! Tom your placement of the 37MM's is spot on I will try to find another photo for you. Arjan the rubber Life boat locker is coming along nicely.
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 7:22am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



Ted ,thank you .
I hope you can find a good images.
I was wondering if the ammo lockers that came with the kit for the 37mm are used on the real thing.I haven't found any photos for the European Elco's .



I finished the locker ,put some hinges and a grip on.
I also made a start to put 2 "heavy clamps next to the 40mm.
they must be shaped little better .

cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 8:41am
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Tom;
Here you go:

jqtZS.jpg
PT 513 RON 35 37MM Port and Starboard.

jq9uY.jpg
Another for Arjan, PT 519 overhead onboard transport ship SS San Diego enroute to England. Notice the dog, in the photo Arjan posted earlier, the dog is laying down in front of the rubber life boat locked(next to the white arrow),

jqAMm.jpg
PT 519, PT 516, PT 520 RON 35 England 1944. Notice "Shoo-Shoo Baby" is on the side of the cabin. RON 35 emblems on port spray sheilds.

jqc70.jpg
PT 519 Crew photo, Notice the 37MM loader to Port. Also radar is blacked out by the sensor. This might mean the Camo came later than we previously thought.. On the transport, the 20MM is to port and the boat is in painted in Measure 13.

jqeBc.gif
PT 517 37MM Port and starboard.

Ken Campbell Radioman 3/C was a crewman on PT 518 RON 35, and he used to have a website on the internet dedicated to PT 518 and RON 35. I copied all of it in Print. To see it, you have to go on the Way Back Machine and find it, but I am having no luck., Nevermind I found it , put this in the wayback machine: http://members.cox.net:80/ptboat518/

Take Care,
TED




Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 10:20am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



Tom : Your locker is really looking good !

Ted : Thanks for the nice pics! The quality of some of the pics is so good one would think they were made by a professional photographer with a good camera. Looks like Tom and I will have to get ourselves some 1/35 Ron 35 emblems [:-happy-:].

Regards,

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 10:48am
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm



Tom;
Here is more info concerning RON 35 37MM mounts, it is an excerpt of PT BOAT D-DAY PLANNING: PT BOAT OPERATION- ENGLISH CHANNEL 1944 by CDR Arthur N. Barnes, USN RON 35 CO

" 37MM Aircraft cannon, M4.
This gun, although designed for use in aircraft as a fixed mount, has been used successfully by PTs in the Channel area against E-boats and other surface craft not subject to torpedo attack. The gun is mounted on a 20MM Mark XIV pedestal assembly making it a free moving, easily fired and controlled anti-surface weapon. The boats in this command were fitted with (2) 37MM guns, one on either side just forward of the chartroom. The assemblies were made from Mark X assemblies with eight and one-quarter inches cut from the stand so that the Mark Xs resembled the Mark XIV mounts. The legs were welded to steel plates secured to wooden pads mounted on the deck. Loaded with a thirty-round magazine, the weight of gun and ammunition is 306 pounds, entire installation including deck pads is 760 pounds. Placing the 37MM aft just forward of the charthouse improves the stability of the gun in rough seas and clears the bow of the boat so that a better view forward is obtained."

Now even though CDR Barnes wrote this, not all boats recieved 2 37MM's. The most common set up for RON 35 is like your model, 20MM starboard and 37MM Port.

RON 30 (PT 456-461) also mounted 2- 37MM's forward on at least one boat.
jqiY3.jpg
PT 459, PT 461, AND ANOTHER, CHERBOURG FRANCE 1944
PT 459 only had the 37MM to Port.
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Dec 30, 2018 - 10:50am
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Thanks Ted, I've been working on a 37mm for 3D printing and was getting frustrated trying to get the mount right. This explains why I see fairly major differences in what I thought were all Mark 14 mounts. The image you posted shows what could be a Mark 14 and cut down Mark 10, you can see they are different:

jqD0T.jpg




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Dec 31, 2018 - 4:36am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am



Hi Ted ,
Thanks for the photos and the description of the mount for the 37mm.
I made a new one for my model.




I'll think I need to put an empty mounting disk on the spot where the 20mm was originally.
I think most big parts are in place ,detailing wil be done during the final fitting.
Thanks for your input.

happy new year to everybody.

Tom

Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Dec 31, 2018 - 7:42am
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Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Dec 31, 2018 - 7:43am
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Tom;
Nice work. Glad to help!
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Dec 31, 2018 - 9:31am
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Hi ,
here are some progress photos from my rebuild of the 518 "requisition Joe"
Also a question,on the airvent boxes near the 40mm I found some "piggybags" on 1 of the photos there is a small wire coming out. Someone knows what they are [:-confused2-:] first photo.
I put the rolloff rack about 2cm forward as suggested by Arjan.
And made an extra searchlight stand.





cheers, T

Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 11, 2019 - 12:50am
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welcome and nice boat.



Posted By: Dale | Posted on: Jan 12, 2019 - 8:50am
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Thanks Dale

And also a big thank you to Dick for getting the topic name changed

Cheers ,
Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 12, 2019 - 11:10pm
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Moderator test only

Dick . . . . .



Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Jan 14, 2019 - 7:49am
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so to day I got some stuff for the pt from Royal model .
And I also put the searchlight holder on the Portside of the cockpit.




cheers,
Tom

Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 16, 2019 - 10:42am
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Looking good Tom, I also like the accessory set and particularly the life vests. I have also made a search light mount today. I also have the PT 109 kit so I can more or less copy parts such as the search light mount, the navigation lights and the grab rails. In fact it would be a simple matter for Italeri to release a 1/35 PT Channel version, they would only have to design a couple of new parts.and make some minor changes to others.

Groet,

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Jan 16, 2019 - 2:29pm
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Thanks Arjan,
Couple of details I've put on since last time .







cheers, Tom


Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 19, 2019 - 12:14pm
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Here we are again .
After reading Arjan's post took off a part that I already made and start changing the windows of the radioroom.
Took off all the raised parts and now I'll have to cut the hole lower and make a new surround on both sides.




So that is an other evening or two .
cheers,
Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 22, 2019 - 10:13am
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Hi Tom, I like the vents you've built. It certainly makes my building efforts easier to get a rough idea of its shape and dimensions. I might buy the 3d airfoil wind deflector and Oerlikon magazine cradles from Shapeways, though, because I don't fancy building these myself.

Regards,


Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Jan 22, 2019 - 12:24pm
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I finished the rebuild of the chartroom windows and some other detail that came with it.
I also took the wrong "electric lines "of the dayroom top.
Ready for the next bit.
Cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 25, 2019 - 2:36am
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Nice work Tom ! I doubt if you would have had the courage to overhaul your model like this if it hadn't dropped from its shelf. So perhaps this accident was a blessing in disguise after all (a good disguise [:-happy-:]).


Regards,


Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Jan 25, 2019 - 3:49am
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Hi ,
Is the ammo locker in the chartroom starboard side in the 103 also in the later boat but then in front of the turret

http://www.pt103.com/images/PT_Boat_Elco_103_Class_Bridge_And_Chart_House_Perspective_Stbd_Aft.jpg

Like to know before I put the torpedo finely to the deck .

cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 25, 2019 - 8:54am
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There is definitely a rectangular object just ahead of the front turret that might be a locker door :



Groet,

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Jan 25, 2019 - 10:43am
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Dicks Elco 80 DVD has 3 drawings for the chart house on later boats, this is what they show. For some reason PTs 522-545 show up on 2 of them:

372-383, 486-563 - yes
522-545, 731-760 - yes
565-624 - no

From the PT 522-545 and 731-760 drawing, it shows a 30 inch x 16 3/8 inch opening right above the coaming. The coaming was 6 inches tall minus the thickness of the top layer of planking or the plywood deck:

jJCrt.jpg

Italeri threw in an extra deck light on the starboard side of the chart house, very minor but it should be an easy fix if you are a fellow A type. Here's a drawing showing their layout:

[image]http://www.pt103.com/images/PT_Boat_Elco_103_Class_Deck_Dead_Light_Locations.jpg[/image]




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 6:15am
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No sign of it on the 579 boat:

jJ3sw.jpg




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 6:27am
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Hi Jeff,

You'r sure right on the higher number boats.
But on those that have the step to the turret moved to under the side window it seems there is a door of some-kind .
Here is a photo from Lamberts book of the 547 and there is also something there.

So I think I'll put it parts are already made.
The deck dead lights I think I'll pass on them like the deck / hull shape.
thanks for the extra info always handy to have around.

cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 8:05am
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Tom, if I interpret Jeff's response correctly he confirms there was an opening (locker door) on the Channel PT boats. Thanks for the info Jeff !


Regards,


Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 8:35am
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm



Yep Arjan, as far as I can tell only PTs 565-624 lacked the locker. Here's a shot of PT 530 that shows it:

jJO4s.jpg




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 8:57am
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Tom, you may have missed my post on the bottom of page 3. And you're very welcome Arjan!

PT 505 showing another little bit at the base of the turret, it was for the throttle pushrod deck housing and found on PT 372 on:

jJWVH.jpg

In case anyone wants to model it, drawing is again courtesy of Dick Washichek:

jJm64.jpg


Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 9:28am
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Aha ,
Some language problem on my side.
Thanks Jeff the first photo is the one that shows it clearly.
The other sare somewhat vague.
There seems to be some extre deflector on the cockpit front ,any idea if there are other boats with that?

Cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 9:42am
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Looks like the wind screen on PT 505 :



Very useful pic Jeff, thanks again. By the way, my Shapeways parts arrived today and your running lights are perfect for fitting leds.

Regards,


Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 10:43am
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yes ,could wel be ,but it looks if it 's folded down.

Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 10:58am
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Cool Arjan, what will you do for the lens? The SW plastic is somewhat clear and maybe porous, I've wondered about how clear it can be made by putting it in a vaccuum chamber with clear resin.

Are you talking about PT 530 Tom? If so I had this shot that shows a bit more detail:

jJqSM.jpg




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 12:40pm
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I will use the lenses as supplied by Shapeways. For running lights it's not that important to have perfectly clear lenses, transluscent is good enough. Ideally I would like to use a drop of cyanoacrylate to reinforce and seal the printing material but I will try this out on a piece of scrap material first.

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Jan 26, 2019 - 2:05pm
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Sounds good Arjan, I am looking forward to seeing your finished project!




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 27, 2019 - 5:09am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am



Dear Tom, I am also about to build a Ron 34 boat - converted from the Italeri 596 kit. I am interested in how you did the white star on the bow. Happy to swap notes and reference information.




Posted By: JerseySandy | Posted on: Jan 30, 2019 - 12:04pm
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hi ,
Welcome on board.
I found the star in PT boats In Action , they're 2 of them , both a little different.
But that is standard on a PT boat .
I first sprayed the deck it's main color.
I printed out a 5 point star in the right size and cut it out.
I put it on the deck with some small patches of double sided tape.
I used the Tamiya yellow paint tape along the outline of the paper star , when I was satisfied with the result I removed the paper and double-sided tape and made sure there was no glue left behind .
Sprayed the star .
Hopes this helps.



cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Jan 31, 2019 - 2:59am
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Tom;
in case you have never read this, this is the short biography of Ensign William Hamilton Shaw USNR XO of PT 518 RON 35.

http://nedforney.com/index.php/2018/04/12/william-hamilton-shaw-us-navy-wwii-korean-war/

Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Feb 2, 2019 - 7:38am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



Thanks Ted,

Was interesting reading.
Here are some progress photos.






Nice running lights couldn't resist them

Did some work on the dinghy to
cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Feb 7, 2019 - 9:11am
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Hi Tom, your build is coming along nicely ! I'm curious about your commander figure. Have you converted an Italeri figure ? I started converting some Italeri figures when I was waiting for the PT boat kit to arrive. I exchanged the original Italeri heads for some resin ones (Italeri figures always seem to have rather awful heads [:-happy-:]).

Groet,

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Feb 7, 2019 - 10:09am
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm



Thanks Arjan,
I only changed the helmet for a officers hat from a miniart figure.
cheers,
Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Feb 7, 2019 - 11:13am
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Tom;
When you almost done, you can add this:

jJfr8.jpg

The original is part of the RON 35 collection onboard the USS Massachusetts(BB59), at Fall River. The plaque is two tone gray with black outline and shading and white highlights. It is safe to say there was one on each side of the charthouse above the side windows.

jJusi.jpg

The font I used for this was Brush Script MT, it was the closest I could get.
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Feb 7, 2019 - 12:34pm
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



Ted,
That is a niche one, thank you very much.
I'm going to make some decals for the name.

Do you know by any chance what length the whip antenna is?

cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Feb 8, 2019 - 12:03am
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That's interesting Ted, I wondered about the objects above the side windows in some pics. Looks like PT 513 also had a name plate in this position :




Regards,


Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Feb 8, 2019 - 1:08am
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Your model is looking good Tom!

The parts manual lists 2 types of antenna, a telescoping MM-435X and an unspecified 2 piece rigid. Here are the application notes for them:
Sectional: No boats listed just a note stating Either can be used on any Elco boat - Interchangeable
Rigid: PT's 486-533, 555-563, and 731-760

A 1942 Premax catalog lists a MM-435 as a 35' 5 section model. I don't know what the X designation in the parts catalog means.

The 1943 Motor Torpedo Boat Manual [url]http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/PT-Manual/MTBM-4.html[/url] states:
Antenna.--Whip type--20-foot vertical.

Note that the above manual is for both 77 and 80 foot boats. Many Elco 80 images show an antenna definitely longer that 20 feet.

The joint clamp collars on the telescoping antenna looked like this:

[image]http://www.pt103.com/images/ptpics/8e01469u_Antenna.jpg[/image]

Here's what I came up with for the telescoping antenna when collapsed and extended:

[image]http://www.pt103.com/images/PT_Boat_Elco_103_Class_Bridge_And_Chart_House_Gridded_Stbd.jpg[/image]




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Feb 8, 2019 - 7:12am
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Tom;
To follow up on what Jeff said, I have found no specific length, so far. Just eye balling the PT 513 Port Quarter photo(posted earlier), the Mark Xlll is 13.4167 feet long(161 inches), using this length as a base, the antenna is roughly 24' long.If it is the 435X, it may not be fully extended. Or it may be the two piece rigid model Jeff mentioned.
Take care,
TED
PS: If I find the actual measurement I will post it
.jJAqI.jpg
Here is another good photo that shows the antenna, PT 596 RON 40 Miami shakedown June 1945.



PS2: The TCS-7, -9, -10, -11, -12 Manual (NAVSHIPS 900,291-IB) dated 14 November 1944 only mentions a 20' whip antenna.
However, the WW2 TCS was used on Vietnam-era PTF's and their whip antenna was 25' NT-66053. NT-66053 is a general purpose 25' non-telescoping whip antenna. The lengths are joined together by fitting the adaptor.
ref:http://navy-radio.com/ant-ship.htm


Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Feb 8, 2019 - 9:23am
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Guys,

A few years ago, I contacted the company that made the PT's radio antennae (can't remember the name) during WWII, which was/is still in business.

A company executive emailed me back with the specifications of the antennae, which I posted on the Forum, so... the info is somewhere on the Forum, in an old post.

-- Drew



Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Feb 25, 2019 - 11:43am
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I found the post Drew unfortunately Photobucket strikes us out again: [url]http://www.ptboatforum.com/cgi-bin/MB2/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=1381&st=10&nd=20&pg=1&sc=20[/url]. Here's the catalog page with the most likely marine / USN used antennas:

jJ8yM.jpg




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Feb 27, 2019 - 3:30pm
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[b]Copied PREVIOUS POST BY Drew Cook (Dec 17, 2009 - 5:23pm) ALL LINKS WORK:

[green]“I found out they were manufactured by Premax, and that the company still existed, I sent an email to their customer service requesting any information on their World War II antenna products.

Richard Hannah, the General Manager of Premax, was nice enough to sent me a PDF of their twelve-page 1945 catalog, which contains a marine section on "Monel Antennas" (page seven), "developed especially for Navy use." My best guess is that the PT antennas (at least for the 80' Elcos) were the "USM-325 3-section jointed" antennas, which had an extended length of 25 feet and a collapsed length of 9 feet. Please see the link and photo below:

Drew Cook “[/green][/b]

[b]CLICK[/b] the link to view/download the complete pdf file: [url]http://www.ptboatforum.com/PTFdocuments/AntennaCatalogR42.pdf[/url]

View of the Monel Antennas page:

AntennaCatalogR42small-7.jpg

THE ORIGINAL POST IS NOW CORRECTED ON THIS ANTENNA DISCUSSION: [url]http://www.ptboatforum.com/cgi-bin/MB2/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=1381&st=10&nd=20&pg=1&sc=20[/url]





Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Feb 28, 2019 - 8:40am
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That's the one, Jeff and Dick -- thanks for finding and re-posting it!



Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Feb 28, 2019 - 11:36am
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Thank you all for the data about the wip antenna.
This is what I made of it.



cheers, Tom

Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Feb 28, 2019 - 12:25pm
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Tom dK,

That antenna looks really good. Hope I can make one as good when I finally get around to my PT modeling.



Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Mar 1, 2019 - 11:54am
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That looks good Tom ! Did you use plastic rod for the antenna ?

Regards,


Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Mar 1, 2019 - 1:58pm
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm



Thanks Drew,
I'll bet you will make it a good one.
Arjan, I used a piece of piano wire 0,5mm and drilled out 4 pieces of 1 mm evergreen as connections thinned them down a bit to 0,8mm antenna length 170 mm.
your doing very well with all the extras you put on your boat.

cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Mar 4, 2019 - 8:04am
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A couple of days ago I found out that my ready lockers where wrong
to short and 3 instead of 4 "feet"
So I started to make new ones.


Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:31am
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Nice work Tom ! It's not easy to make 4 identical ones, also a time consuming and laborious job. I'm not looking forward to this step of the build [:-happy2-:].

Groet,

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Mar 8, 2019 - 3:33am
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm



Tom;
Those look great and they will look great on the stern of your model!
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 8, 2019 - 12:39pm
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



Nice Tom, and kudos for going the extra mile! [:-cheers-:]



Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Mar 9, 2019 - 4:55am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am



Thanks gentlemen,

Here are my latest photo's.
All big parts are now glued on.
weathering ,decals and some extra stuff will be put on in the next weeks.



I will take some better photo's later on.
cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 - 12:28pm
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Thanks gentlemen,

Here are my latest photo's.
All big parts are now glued on.
weathering ,decals and some extra stuff will be put on in the next weeks.



I will take some better photo's later on.
cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 - 12:28pm
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Tom;
Your model looks great! I can't wait to see your weathering job.
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 - 12:39pm
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



Excellent work Tom, a really unique model !


Groet,

Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 - 1:02pm
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm



Tom;
I just noticed you even have the Smoke Screen applicator/emission tube and the chain with its cap, outstanding attention to detail!!!
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 - 6:24am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



Thanks Ted,
I try to make it as good as I can.
I wish that I found this site earlier so that I could have made full use of al the know-how and photos of this incredible site. Some of things I couldn't do because I was already halfway in the build.
Now a have question for you or anyone that might know the answer.


The shield of RON 35 ,what is it's diameter ? In the circle
My guess is about 15 inch .
Like to know so I can make some decals .
second Q it 's on both side ?

cheers, Tom



Posted By: Tom dK | Posted on: Mar 20, 2019 - 12:59pm
Total Posts: 48 | Joined: Dec 27, 2018 - 7:09am



Hi Tom, the sign was definitely present on both sides :




I think the diameter of the squadron sign would probably have been slightly smaller than 10 mm (in 1/35 scale). Needless to say I would also be interested in a set of decals . Have you got a laser printer yourself or are you going to have them printed by someone else ?

Regards,


Arjan



Posted By: Arjan Wiskerke | Posted on: Mar 20, 2019 - 2:43pm
Total Posts: 162 | Joined: Dec 22, 2018 - 12:04pm