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» Topic: PT 569 large scale model
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There is a large scale PT 596 model in the World War II Glider & Military Museum in Iron Mountain, Michigan, which may be of some interest to forum members. I would guess it was modified from the Dumas 1/20 PT 109 kit, and while it really isn't up to museum standards, I thought it was interesting nonetheless. Interesting in view of - if it really IS a modification of the Dumas kit - it seems very well done. And ambitious, too.

I shot the photos through a glass case, so they're not of optimum quality, but they're not too bad for an iPhone 5 with an 8-megapixel camera. Hope you all enjoy!

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Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Jun 7, 2017 - 7:56am
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am



Hi Bob,
Are you sure it is not the italieri model? They released the PT 596 kit before the 109 kit. I know since I built one as well. It ends up being 39 inches long. I think it is 1/32 scale? Just seems curious since this is the exact same number as the kit provided.
Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Jun 7, 2017 - 6:31pm
Total Posts: 1469 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm



Sure looks like the Italeri 1:35 scale boat to me. Stan made one for me several years ago, looks to be the same thing.



Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jun 7, 2017 - 8:13pm
Total Posts: 3497 | Joined: Oct 9, 2006 - 6:09am



Frank & Jerry,

I'm not familiar with the Italeri kit, but you both could easily be right. I didn't feel this was a plastic kit due to the roughness of a number of components, especially the torpedoes. But then again, this could be the paint.

Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Jun 8, 2017 - 9:37am
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am



If that's not the 1/35th scale Italeri PT 596 model, it sure is an almost dead-ringer for it...


Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Jun 8, 2017 - 2:14pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am



It is definitely not the Italeri kit.

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Jun 30, 2017 - 5:41pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm



Looks to have cleaver style propellers also, and they are rotating in the wrong direction. Maybe an old RC boat?

Larry
62 Bel-Air
260 Eagle EXP
79 Cole TR-2
2016 Corvette Z51

Posted By: bubbletop409 | Posted on: Jul 23, 2017 - 6:07pm
Total Posts: 164 | Joined: Apr 22, 2013 - 11:48pm



And the rudders are much larger than a scale kits would be.

Larry
62 Bel-Air
260 Eagle EXP
79 Cole TR-2
2016 Corvette Z51

Posted By: bubbletop409 | Posted on: Jul 23, 2017 - 6:10pm
Total Posts: 164 | Joined: Apr 22, 2013 - 11:48pm



I am pretty sure that the 596 kit was able to be made into an RC model with only slight modifications to the rudder and prop. But if this is not the Italieri Kit I will be completely surprised. I am looking at the one I built and they are exactly the same in many details! even the number decals are identical, not to mention the rocket launchers, the armament and the wherry placed on top of the day room exactly as the kit directions call for. There are too many identical details for this not to be the italieri kit. David what makes you say that it definitely is NOT? Just curious?

Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Jul 23, 2017 - 8:24pm
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There are some tell tale signs Jerry. I'll point out what immediately pops.

1. The life raft on the Chart House. Way out of scale and much different than the Italeri kit.
2. The cave out under the starboard turret.
3. The cleats.
4. The vents on the foredeck.
5. Here's a big one. The window on the Day Cabin on the forward starboard side on this model is correct. It is incorrect on the Italeri kit.

If this is R/C access is very well hidden but it could be. Nicely done. Whomever built it can be very proud of their work. Very nice model!
Dave



David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Jul 24, 2017 - 5:38am
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All;
I agree with Dave, in addition to what he already listed, while all my items can be the result of super detailing,
1. There are junction boxes on the cockpit bulkhead,
2. That cable across the dayroom on the Italieri kit is missing.
3. The insulator on the antenna on stbd cockpit bulkhead is slightly larger than it should be.
4. The steering wheel is wrong.
5. The Wherry looks more refined. the Italieri Wherry looks a bit too wide and bulky.
6. The aft hatch on the aft bulkhead of the dayroom doesn't appear to be there.
7. The numbers are the wrong font/style.the numbers on this model are Gothic.

Bob was this model about 3 feet long or 4 feet long? I think this is a modified Franks Mosquito Boat Hobbies Model, Link: http://www.geocities.ws/mosquitoboat/modelimages/596cabin.JPG
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Jul 24, 2017 - 7:19am
Total Posts: 3058 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



I haven't examined either the Italeri 1/35 kit or the 1/20 Dumas kit, so I can't really say. But as a life-long scale modeler I thought the model looked like it was made of wood that was not finished to the degree of smoothness you would expect in an injection-molded plastic kit.

In addition, the rudders are too large for scale size, indicating a radio-controlled model, which the very aggressive propellers would tend to corroborate. Which is why I though it was an ambitious upgrade of the old Dumas r/c kit.

And yes, Ted, the model was about four feet long. So, it appears it's the 1/20 Dumas kit with the Frank's Mosquito Boat Hobbies PT 596 upgrade kit. If you want Frank to supply both the Dumas kit and the 596 upgrade kit, it's $695.00. If you already have the Dumas kit and just want the 596 upgrade kit, that's a cool $450.00.

My money is on Dave and Ted. [:-grin-:]

Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Jul 24, 2017 - 10:52am
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am



Thanks David, I never noticed these items. I appreciate your prompt response! Did not know the model was 4 feet long, that right there would rule out the Italieri model. I submit to the rivet counters!

Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Jul 24, 2017 - 12:48pm
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