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All;
For those of you still looking for a copy of "Knights Of The Sea", for you PT Boat Library there is an original copy with a reasonable buy it now price.
Take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Apr 20, 2016 - 5:32am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

Hi Ted,

I see two copies on eBay:

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/PT-Boats-Knights-Of-The-Sea-Book-Limited-Edition-Very-Rare-/401099780141?hash=item5d6368f02d:g:XD8AAOSwQYZWyc3I[/url]

...and...

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/KNIGHTS-OF-THE-SEA-P-T-Boats-1982-Hardcover-/172171691221?hash=item28163b84d5:g:VmEAAOSwuTxV~NUF[/url]

I'm having some difficulty understanding why this book sells for $175 or $200. Is this considered a reasonable price? I note the book is a limited edition of only 2000 copies and is fairly comprehensive at 512 pages. Being somewhat new to PT boats - but not to books - I'm trying to gain a better understanding of why, exactly, this title is so spendy.

As an aside, I've just purchased a copy from a bookseller on Cape Cod that is in very good condition for $125. Hope it's worth it when it arrives.[:-veryhappy-:]

Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Apr 20, 2016 - 5:56am
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am

It's pricey because it is so hard to find (law of supply and demand), I've seen them over the last 20 years go as high as $400.00. I bought mine sometime back for $175.00 See the whole story in the link below - you can buy a .PDF version on CD from HQ for $65.00.

[url]http://www.ptboatforum.com/cgi-bin/MB2/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=3023&st=20&nd=30&pg=1&sc=20[/url]

A tear still comes to my eyes now and then.

Dick . . . .

Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Apr 20, 2016 - 7:54am
Total Posts: 1417 | Joined: Aug 27, 2006 - 6:36pm

Well Dick, after viewing the images of your field-stripped copy, I now have a tear in MY eye! [:-smilearound-:]

You're a much better man than I am, Gunga Din![:-laughing-:]

Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Apr 20, 2016 - 11:11am
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am

Not anymore its mine!!!!!!!

Posted By: RANDY SMITH | Posted on: Apr 20, 2016 - 6:50pm
Total Posts: 182 | Joined: Jul 16, 2012 - 7:16pm

The $200 one is still available. Sooo tempting.

Not anymore its mine!!!!!!!

Posted By: Capt Speirs | Posted on: Apr 20, 2016 - 7:36pm
Total Posts: 41 | Joined: Feb 21, 2016 - 6:56pm

Makes me glad I have one of the originals.....

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Apr 20, 2016 - 10:17pm
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm

Will I guess I am lucky I have two of the originals. One with my name and Squadron 19-23 embossed on the front. Got them back when they were first printed. Pays to be old I guess.

C. J. Willis

Posted By: CJ Willis | Posted on: Apr 21, 2016 - 11:25am
Total Posts: 464 | Joined: Nov 5, 2006 - 5:02pm

Me too Will!![:-grin-:]

C.J.
You are very lucky to have two copies. But we are the lucky ones that you and Earl visit with us every few days.[:-cheers-:]

Take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Apr 21, 2016 - 11:30am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

Amen to that, Ted!

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Apr 21, 2016 - 8:25pm
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm

Well, it came today. All 5.38 pounds of it via USPS Media Mail, and I'm certain they lost money on shipping ($3.99)

After a semi-exhaustive search on the Internet I found a copy listed on AbeBooks.com, and the seller was Half Price Books in Dallas. Cost $123.36 plus the aforementioned shipping.

I think the descriptions of the book by other forum members are too conservative in their praise.....[:-happy2-:] This title is large, heavy, with textured leather-like covers embossed in silver plate which makes the knight on the cover look like polished pewter. The pages are quality heavy glossy stock.

The condition was listed as "good", but I think it's "very good". The binding is tight, only a few pages have very minor stains (Galley coffee?), and the whole seems like a fantastic bargain.

For those who are as unfamiliar with the book as I am, I've attached three pages from within, and of course we find our own ubiquitous Al Ross II has lent his elegant drafting skills to the production of this book. [:-grin-:]

Thanks to all of you who made me aware of this title! [:-cheers-:]

[image]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/Ghostrider22/f96478bd-2f50-4d04-bc8c-cec80c7a1c9d_zpssjpljjcc.jpg[/image]

[image]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/Ghostrider22/IMG_2221_zpsg7pmbqpz.jpg[/image]

[image]http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r88/Ghostrider22/IMG_2222_zpsoikjthxz.jpg[/image]

Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Apr 25, 2016 - 1:13pm
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am

Bob;
Your previous statement: "I'm having some difficulty understanding why this book sells for $175 or $200"

Now you understand why. This is the greatest book by PT veterans for PT veterans ever. Imagine, they(PTHQ) only printed the bios of the veterans that answered their open request for a bio. Imagine if all the surviving PT veterans in 1980 sent in a bio, the book would resemble a pulpit bible.
Enjoy yours, I didn't even put my copy down for a week, after I received it..
Take care
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Apr 25, 2016 - 4:44pm
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

An absolutely fascination read and a great reference source...

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Apr 25, 2016 - 5:20pm
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm

On the cataloging in data page it's stated that only 2000 copies were printed...and my copy is #_____________ (blank)

Are only some of these numbered? [:-confused2-:]

Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Apr 26, 2016 - 9:47am
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am

I dunno...Mine is #106

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Apr 26, 2016 - 3:43pm
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm

I thought they were all numbered. Mine are #451 and #1741. #451 is the one with my name and squadron numbers embossed on the front.

C. J. Willis

Posted By: CJ Willis | Posted on: Apr 27, 2016 - 11:33am
Total Posts: 464 | Joined: Nov 5, 2006 - 5:02pm

Bob,
Look on Page 4 where mine is posted. Mine is #1918.
Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Apr 27, 2016 - 11:56am
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm

Bob,
Look on Page 4 where mine is posted. Mine is #1918.
Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR

Hi Jerry,

Yes, Page 4 is what I referenced above: just a blank after the "2000 copies" statement. Still, I don't feel the book is less valuable. By way of contrast, I have the Turner Publishing book on the USS Kidd, DD661, which is about 1/4 the thickness of this Turner book. Great value!

Cheers!
--Bob

Posted By: Bob Steinbrunn | Posted on: Apr 27, 2016 - 1:26pm
Total Posts: 134 | Joined: Jan 23, 2016 - 9:16am

Mine's # 1923.

Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Apr 27, 2016 - 2:42pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am