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Topic: yacht finished business(80' elco design)
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Has anyone been too or heard about the 1947 Air Sea Rescue boat, operating in Washington, D.C.? It's design cam from an 80' elco but had eleven inches added on, and was a prototype rescue boat by elco.
It's a really neat looking boat.
http://capitalyachtcharters.com/our-fleet/finished-business/
ThePTboater




Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 1, 2016 - 5:25am
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Hmmm?.....Yes built by ELCO, but no construction year is listed, it is listed as Length (ft.): 77.7 Hull Depth (ft.): 7.3
Hull Breadth (ft.): 21.1 Gross Tonnage: 78 Net Tonnage: 53. The bio on website says built 1947 and refreshed in 1962.


WHOA!!! I just found this :http://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/the-superyacht-directory/finished-business--45485
Notice the 1942 construction date listed here!!!! WE HAVE TO CHECK THIS BOAT OUT!!!!

Jeff, is there a 3 foot angle on the stern from waterline to deck on an ELCO 80??
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 1, 2016 - 7:15am
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oops

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 1, 2016 - 7:17am
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I come up with about a 12 degree angle, and an overhang from the water line to the aft end of the hull (less guard) of 12. It does indeed look a lot like an Elco 80':

[image]http://www.pt103.com/images/asst/FinishedBusiness3.jpg[/image]

Although the above image is not solid proof, nice detective work guys!




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Mar 1, 2016 - 10:34am
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For what it's worth, this page shows its / a history: [url]http://www.boatsdc.com/#!yacht-ancestory-/c39j[/url]

[green]The Motor Yacht Finished Business is a converted 1947 ELCO Air Sea Rescue prototype built using an 80ft ELCO PT Boat plan. Eleven inches were added to the original PT plan along with extraordinary framing and planking to accommodate speeds above 45mph. She was tested at 60kts. For a WWII Film on construction of PT Boats see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8tQP3s9DIQ&noredirect=1.[/green]

[green]After testing on the Delaware Bay, this hull and two others like it were stored after having her three Packard engines removed. Sonny Melville of St Marys County Maryland, a fine shipwright, acquired her through contract to convert her to a pleasure yacht. He finished in 1962. Her first name was Johnboat II for just a year. Her next owner, Don Welborne of Winchester, Virginia changed the name to Westwind. He kept her at Pt. Lookout where she was hauled every year. In circa1978, she was purchased by Capital Land Company, a real estate group that used her to close deals. Hence, her name was changed to Finished Business. Circa 1986, the late Capt. Bob Pennington purchased her and started a charter business. She was Certified to carry passengers in 1988. In 1993, she was purchased by Capt. Eric Slaughter of Washington, DC.[/green]

[green]She has been visited by many dignitaries over the years including Senator Ted Kennedy and family, President Richard Nixon, Secretary Jim Baker, the President of Kazakhstan, the wives of the Premier and Ambassador of China, Jenna Bush, the Duke and Duchess of Belgium, and many Governors and Mayors. She has also been honored by visits from the PT Boat Historical Society, and many officers who served on PTs in WWII.[/green]

[green]For wooden boat designers and builders, she is a unique construction featuring three rib systems, double diagonal planking, triple planking amidships and aft, glued cloth between planks, and braded rivets throughout. Framing is oak, fir and mahogany. Planking is all mahogany.[/green]

[green]Major restoration of the hull began at Chesapeake Boatworks in 2011 by Jon and Rick Farenholt and William Slaughter with consultation from Mr. Ed Deagle, a fifth generation shipbuilder.[/green]




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Mar 1, 2016 - 11:59am
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Good Job Nic! I think there is a possibility that you have found an EX-RON 4 boat, if that 1942 date is true.
I wonder if they have all the documentation, that shows the Elco Hull Number.
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 1, 2016 - 1:25pm
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I was definitely surprised to find this as well!
It's not everyday when you are searching for 1947 elco pleasure boats and something like this comes up.
Hopefully it turns out to be a Ron 4 boat.
ThePTboater



Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 2, 2016 - 8:03am
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I guess we could technically say that the surviving 80' elco count is up to four.

Hopefully in the near future we are able to discover more.
Most would be in other countries I would think
ThePTboater



Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 2, 2016 - 8:07am
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I guess we could technically say that the surviving 80' elco count is up to four.

Hopefully in the near future we are able to discover more.
Most would be in other countries I would think
ThePTboater



Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 2, 2016 - 8:15am
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UPDATE:
I just found this:
Name: FINISHED BUSINESS
Previous Names: WEST WYNNE, WESTWIND?, JOHNS BOAT II

Again If the 1942 date is correct, it can only be PT 140 or PT 141(we know where PT 139 is), from RON 4.because all other 80' ELCO's built in 1942 were sent to the Pacific.
This coincides with info/rumor on an audio tape Ken Prescott to me in Panama in 1996, it was audio of a PT consortium that was held at the Nimitz Museum in Fredricksburg Texas. On the audio from 1996, Bill Bolmfalk states that PT 40 and PT 140 were in existence at that time.

PT 140 was placed in service on October 10, 1942, as was PT 141.

Until we get somebody in that hull, we don't know for sure, but IF the 1942 date is correct, it IS one of these two boats. The 1947 date that keeps popping up, I believe is a conversion date by the company in Maryland that converted 3 ELCO's to ASR prototypes, not a build date.
PT 761 was also believed to be one of the 3. I also believe a 3rd ELCO that was later homeported in the San Franciso area, named SUNDANCER was the other boat.
Take care,
TED

REF:[url]http://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/the-superyacht-directory/finished-business--45485[/url]



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Jul 13, 2017 - 3:20pm
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I have been informed the US Marshals office will be auctioning off "Finished Business", an Elco pt boat(?) that was in default at the Washington DC marina. The auction will take place sometime soon in the New Year. The engines and generator have been winterized over the weekend. Not sure of the actual date and time of the auction.

When I know more details I’ll post again.

Dick . . .





Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Dec 21, 2022 - 11:15am
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Dick;
Thanks for posting this.
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Dec 21, 2022 - 2:52pm
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This is Elco Hull #3689, so PT-766. Been aboard her twice. The last time in October 2019. Covid threw all plans out the window since the plan was to transfer her over to Liberty Museum in Port Clinton, OH in early 2020.

pKZxc.jpg



Posted By: Andy Small | Posted on: Dec 29, 2022 - 12:06pm
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