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PT-486 restoration
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Has there been any restoration done on pt-486 recently?
Are there current plans going to bring this ship to its original elco configuration?
If anyone has pictures of anything that has to do with pt-486, I would appreciate it if you post them here.
Best regards
ThePTboater
Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Feb 5, 2016 - 3:53pm
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Look about 10 entries down on the FORUM for the latest.
Charlie
Posted By: 29navy | Posted on: Feb 5, 2016 - 4:35pm
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PT Boater please contact me at mosquitofleet@comcast.net
Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Feb 6, 2016 - 8:50am
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I had a good conversation with Mr Iannucci yesterday. A team needs to be assembled and a meeting should take place soon.
Jimbo
Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Feb 8, 2016 - 5:38am
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That sounds promising Jim! Will you be involved with her? Please let us know what you can when you get an update.
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Feb 8, 2016 - 8:24am
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Is there a group that is interested in pt-615 as well?
We could use more than one elco. 
If so she does seem to be in semi good condition, not sure about the inside though.
I believe Clark gable owned the boat for a while, as well as pt-459.
ThePTboater
Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Feb 16, 2016 - 10:27am
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https://www.google.com/search?site=webhp&tbm=isch&source=hp&ei=JGrDVvuxFYKpeuuBhKgI&q=pt+615&oq=pt+615&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3..0i24l2.1534.4841.0.5182.7.7.0.0.0.0.373.1405.0j5j1j1.7.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.7.1405.3.l6KT6e-cr3g#imgrc=r7eYw6h45lx4UM%3A
Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Feb 16, 2016 - 10:28am
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When you really think about it, building a new charthouse and deck parts may be not be that hard considering there are loads of elco blueprints, for example pt-103.com
Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Feb 16, 2016 - 10:32am
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Nic,
You should talk to Frank Andruss. He is working with the owner of both PT486 and PT615 of "Fleet Obsolete" Rob Ianucci up in Kingston NY and has more up to date info on all of Ianuccis PT Boats and relative plans for their eventual restoration.
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Feb 16, 2016 - 11:46am
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I spoke with Rob recently and Tim as well. There is a ton to talk about to organize etc and so on. I am still trying to see when a meeting is doable. Everything from funds to a 501 c 3 being sure the boat(S) are safe etc.....
Jimbo
Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Feb 20, 2016 - 9:48am
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I think this is the only way your going to get people interested in this project if it is a 501-C3, without it this restoration would be doomed, unless you have millions to do the project. One step at a time, and at this point the owner needs to give up the boat.
Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Feb 20, 2016 - 5:18pm
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Hi Frank,
I had experience with the LCI in this similar situation. The former owner had to sell the LCI to the Non Profit group before any real progress on the restoration could be done. Having a clear title of ownership by the Non profit is very important since it will make other things like Grants and Charitable Trust giving more likely. Nobody will want to give their time and energy and money to a private person who owns the boat, since they would simply use those donations to enrich themselves and do no actual restoration. Even with the best of intentions, a private individual should not be the beneficiary of any efforts or donations to restore the vessel. It just gets too muddy and reeks of unethical behavior. Thankfully we finally came to this end after fighting it out in court. Just a word of experience. Frank is telling the truth!
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Feb 20, 2016 - 6:55pm
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Thanks, Jerr. Sounds like good advice.
Will
Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Feb 20, 2016 - 10:54pm
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I take it the crickets are still out on this one.....
Jimbo
Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Mar 31, 2016 - 5:03pm
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I know the primary focus is on 486 now, but down the road how hard will it be to restore 615 and to remove all that fiberglass?
Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 31, 2016 - 7:16pm
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615 was not planked properly that is why she was glassed. if someone can point me in the right direction of how t post pics I will dig them out one day
Jimbo
Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Apr 1, 2016 - 3:44am
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tough call on what has to happen out there in Kingston. The boats should be under a 501 C 3 not private ownership. When I had 761 it was all under a 501 c 3
Jimbo
Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Apr 1, 2016 - 3:48am
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I don't see why more care isn't taken for these old boats.
You bringing up 761 made me think of this, its just unfortunate.
I guess at least out of all the Higgins boats, we still have four Elcos in the US.
PT-761 looked like a cool boat, would of made a nice restoration.
ThePTboater
Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Apr 1, 2016 - 8:17am
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the guy that moved it for us at the location in FL was willing to move it for the new owner. All he had to do was cover the immediate cost and then pay him with some interest over time. The guy kept going to people that wanted 23% or more on their money, the people that owned the property she was on wanted to sell so the boat had to go any way any how so they destroyed it. She was a mess but it was still built for one sole purpose and was an Elco PT Boat.
Jimbo
Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Apr 2, 2016 - 5:54am
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I know the primary focus is on 486 now, but down the road how hard will it be to restore 615 and to remove all that fiberglass?
Yes, the time and labor involved to sand off all the fibreglass would be insane, plus we have no idea what damage is underneath. It would be more cost effective to just re-plank the whole hull.
Take care,
TED
Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Apr 2, 2016 - 7:36am
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I have to go through but I have extensive photos of 615. She was re-wooded completely but not properly. There are places where the resin seeped right through the planking seams. From what I was told it was an out of work home builder that did the boat . He just didn't know how to butt the planks against one another to make a tight seal. Plus he did not put anything in between the planking layers
Jimbo
Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Apr 3, 2016 - 8:30am
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Well thats unfortunate, i agree its probably easier to replank the hull, also are you able to post any of these pictures on the forum?
ThePTboater
Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Apr 4, 2016 - 9:45am
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