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» Topic: Elco engine water cooling intakes-outlets
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I've noticed there is no indication of engine cooling water intakes or outlets on the Italeri or Merit kits. Can someone please point me to the information? Many thanks.

Please disregard my previous post; I forgot to enter a topic. So much for New Users...



Posted By: dcshoe | Posted on: Nov 13, 2015 - 4:07pm
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Hi, you may refer to the free PT documents-the Elco spare parts catalogue-wich contains diagrams regardinng location of salt water intakes & outlets.Note that depending on wich boat you are modelling the location of inlets & outlets may change.
Good luck for your project. ,

Daniele Kläy

Posted By: Daniele Klay | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 12:59am
Total Posts: 126 | Joined: Jun 23, 2015 - 12:43pm



If you want to go nuts, our forum moderator Dick Washichek made a nice graphic of hull inlets and outlets. Check out this thread:
[url]http://www.ptboatforum.com/cgi-bin/MB2/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=3099&sc=20&pg=1&x=0[/url]




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 3:43am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am



Speaking of going nuts, check out some of the inlets and outlets Daniele is doing:
[url]http://www.ptboat195.blogspot.com/[/url]




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 3:47am
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Wow! Daniele has gone above and beyond with his 1/16th cutaway model....simply awesome craftsmanship!
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 6:08am
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Many thanks to you all; this helps.



Posted By: dcshoe | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 2:35pm
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Hello. Not sure what your name is?

Go to the " Free PT Documents " Link in the masthead above and navigate down the page to the [b]" Elco Parts Catalog "[/b] and download the manual. Inside you will find Diagrams and Part Photos for nearly everything, but specially of the Sea Water and Fresh Water Systems. The diagrams will give you the location of the water scoops and so on. Below is a direct link to that page for your convenience:

[url]http://www.ptboatforum.com/PT_Boat_Documents.html[/url]

Dick . . .



Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 3:52pm
Total Posts: 1416 | Joined: Aug 27, 2006 - 6:36pm



The parts catalog was the key to understanding. I was losing my mind looking at the microfilm rolls and trying to figure out what the heck was going on with the cooling system. Although I did find the difference between older boat scoops and newer boat scoops with the 80' Elco's.

And we've discovered toilet vents! Sweet!

Don't worry Jeff, I won't ask you to 3D print those bad boys. :-)

Dave



David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 8:27pm
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If you really want to build an accurate model, there are 7 bilge bailer outlets,2 toilet discharge outlets, 2 toilet salt water intakes, 2 wash basin outlet covers,the aux. generator salt water intake and the 6 scoops for the packard heat exchangers......and that on the hull bottom,the sides are yet another story!

Daniele Kläy

Posted By: Daniele Klay | Posted on: Nov 14, 2015 - 11:59pm
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Thanks Daniele,
I hadn't paid a lot of attention to the hull bottom before. I'm familiar with the vents on the hull sides but until now hadn't paid any attention to the bottom, some of which will be easily seen! I need to think how I'm going to do these in 1/35 scale. :-)

Thanks for your great work. I'm going to follow your build.

Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Nov 15, 2015 - 6:28am
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Many thanks, everyone. I've a much better picture now. Odd how these things are often overlooked.



Posted By: dcshoe | Posted on: Nov 15, 2015 - 7:11am
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Dave.you are right;the crew toilet discharge outlets are pretty evident on the front lower hull,due to its steep angle. the remaining scoops will be hidden...displaying your model on a piece of mirror would be a good way to show those details.
Making those scoops in 1/35th will be tough, I made my masters from styrene stock and turned brass,the shapes are pretty straightforward but in 1/35th they will be very small!!That's why I choose 1/16th scale for my build[:-good-:]

Daniele Kläy

Posted By: Daniele Klay | Posted on: Nov 15, 2015 - 10:23am
Total Posts: 126 | Joined: Jun 23, 2015 - 12:43pm



"toilet discharge outlets", no wonder I couldn't find them in the Elco drawings, I was looking for pooper scoops. Thanks Daniele, and thanks for the list of bottom inlets /outlets, that will come in handy someday.

I've got my hopes up this time David, SW hasn't rejected those throttle levers yet. The weekend crew must be braver.




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Nov 15, 2015 - 5:32pm
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Just my little contribution to your masterpiece...[:-grin-:]
Regards

Daniele Kläy

Posted By: Daniele Klay | Posted on: Nov 15, 2015 - 11:23pm
Total Posts: 126 | Joined: Jun 23, 2015 - 12:43pm



So far all is quiet. I need to check with them to find out what's happening with some of my orders on other projects. Their production rate has dropped.
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Nov 16, 2015 - 4:35am
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It should be OK now David, Pat's done hogging the machines: [url]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2478697&page=13[/url]. Very cool, that is going to be a sweet boat.



Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Nov 17, 2015 - 5:11am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am