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Good luck Bill, I enjoyed working with you. Hoping that it will do well........................

Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Oct 9, 2015 - 2:16pm
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am

My copy arrived today. It looks good! I'm in the middle of The Martian" but this will be next on my list. If you happen to come to Denver for a book signing let us know.
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Oct 9, 2015 - 7:13pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Larry, thanks very much for letting me know here about any errors you spot!
Bill

William Doyle

Posted By: William Doyle | Posted on: Oct 10, 2015 - 5:02am
Total Posts: 57 | Joined: Jan 5, 2015 - 10:20am

Bill'
PB4Y-1 Liberator is the correct Navy designation.
VD-1 Fleet Photo Reconnaissance Squadron One, VP-51(later redesignated VB-101) as was VP 14(later redesignated VB-102)were some of the Navy Squadrons that flew out Henderson Field, Guadalcanal during this time frame.

Here is a video of VB-101 ant Guadalcanal 1943
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s92Erf4KQIk[/url]

Here is a link to two planes from VB 102 lost on Feb 14, 1943:
[url]http://pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/pb4y-1/31948/crew_list.html[/url]

The Packard V12 4M-2500 engine, the versions at Tulagi were 1200hp.
(later models were 1350hp(1944) and finally 1500hp(1945).

Take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Oct 10, 2015 - 9:03am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

Bill,

I've got your book on order, and I'm looking forward to reading it.

After reading, researching, discussing and sharing information on PT 109 for over fifty years now, I'll be glad to share my take(s) on the book with you, once I've read it.

I'm encouraged that you're open to correcting any possible mistakes in future editions. Not many authors or publishers are!

Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Oct 10, 2015 - 2:00pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am

Picked mine up at Costco the other day. About half way through, so far I noticed a couple of bits of information that should have been caught in editing, such as an 1800 HP Packard and a PBY4 Liberator.

Was some what surprised at the fact that in all the patrols JFK went on, he only had actual contact with the japs twice.

Larry
62 Bel-Air
260 Eagle EXP
79 Cole TR-2

Bill it appears I spoke too soon regarding the PBY4 Liberator. With out thinking I assumed that a Catalina and a Liberator.had been confused and combined, there numerical designations are so similar they escaped my comprehension..

I apologize for my error.

Larry
62 Bel-Air
260 Eagle EXP
79 Cole TR-2

Posted By: bubbletop409 | Posted on: Oct 10, 2015 - 6:03pm
Total Posts: 164 | Joined: Apr 22, 2013 - 11:48pm

Hi Ted,
In terms of completeness, the Packard 5M-2500 is 1850 Horsepower. It has the 1945 model Supercharger and Aftercooler, The PT-658 has 3 of them. Just in case you forgot! So although they were not on PT103 series boats like the one not to be named, the book is not too far off base since some actual Packard PT Boat Engines were of that horsepower rating.
Anyway the Engine Model vs Horsepower goes like this (AFAIK)

3M-2500 = 1350 Horsepower (no supercharger)
4M-2500 = 1500 Horsepower (added first model supercharger)
5M-2500 = 1850 Horsepower (larger supercharger plus Aftercooler)

I have no idea where you got that 1200 figure from?

Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Oct 10, 2015 - 8:58pm
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm

Jerry;
Thanks for the catch, I sure don't want to spread bogus info!
here is where I got it from:
http://www.pt-boat.com/packard/packard.html
Guess I should have dug further, Thanks again
Take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Oct 11, 2015 - 7:15am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

Ted,
Yes I know, this subject is one of those that has a lot of incorrect information posted on the internet. It sort of is like the one that says that Rolls Royce Merlin engines were commonly installed on PT Boats. Keep fighting the good fight!
Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Oct 11, 2015 - 9:47am
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm

Drew, that's terrific, thank you so much!
Bill

William Doyle

Posted By: William Doyle | Posted on: Oct 13, 2015 - 8:59am
Total Posts: 57 | Joined: Jan 5, 2015 - 10:20am

In talking to Bud Liebenow (Skipper of the 157 for those that haven't read this book yet) this week, he is really, really appreciative of Doyle's details and research he put into this! He has brought many voices by those that were there in the picture. The events of the sinking and rescue and incidental details of life at Rendova are told are as they've always been told to me by Liebenow and Welford West (Bud's torpedo man). Doyle got it right!

Posted By: TheBridge | Posted on: Oct 17, 2015 - 6:28am
Total Posts: 318 | Joined: Nov 22, 2009 - 3:04pm

Bridge,

That's great news...good to hear this from Mr. Liebenow and Mr. West, since they were there...

Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Oct 17, 2015 - 7:35am
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am

My book on a certain famous PT boat came out this week:

[url]http://www.newsmaxtv.com/shows/steve-malzberg-show/archive/vid/c4cGMzeDoXbMo9QAFytC2G94N98Qr3uQ/[/url]

I want to again thank the people in the forum for their help in my effort to get the story right.
I'll fix any errors in the next editions of the book, if you see or hear of any, I'd appreciate your letting me know.
Thank you again!
William Doyle

William Doyle

Hi Bill,
I hope you're still checking in. I read your book while on vacation this past week. I really enjoyed it. While much of the information was well known to me I learned quite a bit more.

I appreciate how the books ties everything back to PT-109 and doesn't wander off into tangents or speculation. Everything seemed to be based on facts which I appreciate a great deal. You can't imagine (or maybe you can) how much nonsense I've heard about JFK and his naval service over the years.

Thanks so much for writing this book. I'll pop over to Amazon and leave you a good review.

Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Oct 31, 2015 - 7:27pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Hey, David, that's great to hear. Thanks a lot. I worked hard to get it right, and was helped a huge deal by the folks on this Forum. Really appreciate your kind words!

William Doyle

Posted By: William Doyle | Posted on: Oct 31, 2015 - 11:14pm
Total Posts: 57 | Joined: Jan 5, 2015 - 10:20am

Bill,
Are you involved in this movie I've been hearing about "Mayday 109"? I hope they reach out to some key people for assistance so that they get it right. In any event I enjoyed the book and discovering the new information I hadn't come across before. I hope it does well for you.
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Nov 1, 2015 - 10:25am
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Finished reading this afternoon. Cleared up several misconceptions for me. Anyone who reads PT 109 would be doing a disservice to themselves if they don't read the "NOTES and SOURCES" section at the back.

Rick Schaefer
Splinter PT 63

TM2c John E Mirus
Solomon Islands
Dec 43 - Jan 45

Posted By: rickas | Posted on: Nov 1, 2015 - 4:53pm
Total Posts: 82 | Joined: Dec 26, 2013 - 5:16pm

Good job!

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Dec 1, 2015 - 3:33pm
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm