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Revell 1/72 PT Boat revisited
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I got this crazy idea that I wanted an out of the box build of the Revell Elco kit as a point of comparison with my 109 build that I'll be sharing an update on with you shortly. I decided I would add NOTHING to this kit which I hoped would make it a quick build. Unfortunately there are some many ejector pin marks, flash, and just plain terrible casting that it of course took longer than expected to get it to an acceptable state.
I also decided that I wanted to do an out of the factory paint job. This is the Standard Gray paint scheme consisting of Light Gray 5 on the hull and Dark Gray 5D on the deck and above. I really love this scheme and not sure why the Navy decided to change it to Measure 1 5D all over.
I just added the a clear coat to protect the paint and prepare to add the decals. I'm going to mark it somewhere between PT-110 and PT-117. Does anyone have any recommendations? I only have one reason for these numbers and that's because of the bit on the foredeck which change starting with PT-109. No, I'm not doing PT-109! I'll post some final shots soon.
PS. Don't ask me why I torture myself this way. I may need professional help. :-)
Dave
David Waples
Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Jan 23, 2015 - 10:30pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm
Its OK, Dave, we understand!
The PT 103-class 80' Elco PT boat of WWII, even though it was designed and built to bring death and destruction to the United States' military enemies was -- and is -- a thing of beauty, any way you look at it.
Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Jan 24, 2015 - 1:27pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am
Hmmm Dave,
You might need professional help but I think Drew is beyond it!!
As to your request for a boat number how about the 115, there is a nice shot of her from above entering Tulagi with the 20mm and Torp tubes a fairly clean boat before any field mods were done.
Must admit though the Elco boats did have nice lines to them.
Yours,
D.buck
Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Jan 25, 2015 - 1:03am
Total Posts: 332 | Joined: May 4, 2008 - 2:59am
"Beyond it..?"[:-confused2-:]
Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Jan 25, 2015 - 1:19pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am
"Beyond it",
"lost it",
"lost the plot",
"Out back with the roos" (kangaroos for those that wonder),
"Gone trop'o"
"Gone Native",
"(Gone) over the hill", (this one can also refer to being to old)
Good Aussie slang for one that was seen to have a problem that could have been fixed but it is now to late!
Got it?
Know what I'm trying to say?
Understand the way I am putting it?
I still say the Elco boat has nice lines to it!!
Sorry Drew having a bit of fun at your expense, I'm in a good mood, have a good day mate!
Yours,
D.buck
Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Jan 25, 2015 - 3:11pm
Total Posts: 332 | Joined: May 4, 2008 - 2:59am
I think somebody's been at the torpedo juice!
Nice paint job Dave, I like the scheme too.
That old Revell kit has some graceful hull lines.
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 26, 2015 - 4:03am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am
A classic kit, in it's own way.....
Will
Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Jan 26, 2015 - 11:25am
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm
No sweat, Dave (Buck), I get it [:-happy2-:].
You're probably right, as I've been fascinated with the (mainly 80' Elco) WWII PT boat since JFK became President and I found out about them, about 55 years ago[:-cheers-:].
Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Jan 26, 2015 - 2:23pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am
I'm going to add some rigging on the mast but here's the completed 10...err... 115 model. Completely out of the box. I used some aftermarket decals for the numbers as the kit decals were in bad shape. These were more appropriate anyway. I'll take some better photos later and show you the final photos of my updated 109 boat.
This will be the last Revell 109 kit I EVER make!
Dave
David Waples
Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 7, 2015 - 8:25pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm
[green]This will be the last Revell 109 kit I EVER make![/green]
To rip off Cool Runnings: "Are ya dead man?". Because that's when I'll believe that statement!
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Feb 8, 2015 - 3:33am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am
The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. And I will not build this kit again! Now if Revell does what they suggested a few years back and releases an updated kit like they did with their B-17's... that's a different story and a different kit.
Dave
David Waples
Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 8, 2015 - 11:11am
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm
Great job David! It is just like you to be able to make "a silk purse out of a sows ear", the sows ear being that horrendous kit. With what you had to work with, I am amazed at your craftmanship. I like the paint scheme you chose as well.
Jerry
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Feb 8, 2015 - 11:51am
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm
Dave;
PT 115 looks great! Now take about a month off to cool down. Then go buy another one! I have about 12 of these out in my garage and 4 are still new in the boxes.
If you really want to challenge yourself get a PT 518 model, this was the midget Lindberg kit(Lindberg Kit #701) 1/ 60th scale or something weird like that . Now modify it to really look like PT 518. That one will really drive you to the nuthouse:0)
Take care
TED [:-laughing-:]
Psst!....there is one for sale on ebay right now, and it has a scribed deck! eBay item number: 231453998342
Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Feb 8, 2015 - 10:03pm
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am
Ted,
I took a look at it on eBay. Took a breath. I'm over it. :-)
I'm leaving it to you to carry on the Revell 1/72 PT Boat legacy. You're well stocked!
Dave
David Waples
Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 9, 2015 - 5:20am
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm
Jerry that 1:72 scale PT-109 has long been a staple for model builders, who continue to upgrade the kit. To be fair, this is really not a bad kit, given when it was built. It looks awesome with upgrades, but is a darn good kit that closely resembles the real Elco, right out of the box.
Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Feb 9, 2015 - 8:27am
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Yeah..."that horrendous kit," in Jerry's words, was pretty much all we had for a long, long time, better than the two Lindberg 80' Elco efforts, and...
At least it wasn't as bad as Revell's poor 78' Higgins PT...now THAT was a horrendous kit, as far as scale, accuracy, and detail were/are concerned!
Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Feb 9, 2015 - 1:32pm
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I think Jerry is just jealous because the HIGGINS PT KIT was the real crummy one in the day, HA HA HA, Jerry............
Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Feb 9, 2015 - 4:16pm
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am
Hey!
I called it "a horrendous kit" in comparison to a lot of others out there like the Italieri. Also I have read all of you lamenting over the years about all of the inadequacies of that kit, so back off! You know the kit would be better if it was a Higgins boat. Besides all I was trying to do was compliment an excellent job by a competent model builder. Would you rather have had me not pay Dave a compliment? I think he is one of the better model smashers out there! Huff.
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Feb 9, 2015 - 5:32pm
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm
I'm glad you like the build and as an out of the box kit I'm not unhappy with it. But this kit is REALLY dated and I'm amazed that Revell continues to release it. The after market pieces have been less than spectacular too. The only one was really the White Ensign set and it was mediocre at best and expensive. I do have to give Revell credit for getting the basic hull shape correct. For whatever reason we still haven't seen that replicated in the newer kit releases.
My favorite thing about the Revell kit was the original art work. I found a vintage kit and that's what led me to build this model. I also bought one of those box cover reprints and had it framed. It really came out nice and although not 100% accurate I think it really reflects the spirit and power of these boats. I'll take some photos later.
Dave
David Waples
Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 9, 2015 - 6:04pm
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Im not really mad, just playing mad for Franks benefit!
Jerry
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Feb 9, 2015 - 7:22pm
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm
Well when one is very young and the closest thing to a real PT Boat that one is going to get is this kit, then that's what one is going out and spend the money that working Saturdays has put in your pocket!
At least that's what I did and my parents thought I was mad to do so, but they were part of the war time generation and did not understand that their thrifty ways were not ours!
OK got that off my chest, David great to see the model it shows that with a little TLC and a hand that knows his stuff a model of this vintage can look rather good indeed!
So well done, and I rather like that you put the 115 numbers on her lets people know that there were other PT 's out there!
Now to keep it out of Franks clutches.
Ah well back to the salt mines!
Yours,
D.buck
Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Feb 10, 2015 - 1:23am
Total Posts: 332 | Joined: May 4, 2008 - 2:59am
Jerry don't be fresh or I'll have to come there and take the boat out for a spin all the way to Massachusetts. Still a kit that is widely used in Diorama's because it finds favor with it's small size, and when completed they look pretty good. I have a few Diorama's built by Stan using this kit and I think they look great. I think the last one we did using this kit was the PT-108/Gato class sub, honoring my buddy Earl Richmond. Alex Johnson did the updated guns and Radar and I think it looks awesome. Now, I am not as picky crazy as some guys, but the kit still offers a fine way for making that diorama. I know it can't hold a candle to the new ITALERI kit, but that 1:35 size makes it a bit tougher to do a Diorama, although Stan who is working on PT-61 for me, will be finishing my PT-108/LCVP next, and that is using the ITALERI KIT.
Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Feb 10, 2015 - 7:48am
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