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Ľ Topic: Post-War return of boats by Soviets
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CDR Jim Moses was kind enough to send these photos from his father's collection and I thought you guys might enjoy them. CDR Moses wrote (slightly edited):

Knowing your interest in small combatants, I thought you might be interested in some of my fatherís photography I just came across. He was CO, Naval Advanced Base Bremerhaven 1955-56, and presided over the return of the Lend-Lease PTís from the USSR. There are four shots, three of people involved, and one of the US flag being raised on some of the boats. More historical interest than modeling detail.

A second group consists of three shots taken aboard one of the new patrol boats intended to replace the S-boats used by the Klose Patrol Group. Likely some sort of public relations cruise, as there are also US, British, and French officers aboard. Taken in the vicinity of Kiel - the Laboe memorial can be seen in the background.

Here they are - now I understand your dedication to the PT's. The 34
boat had quite a career. Glad your dad made it home. Our fathers
might have crossed paths somewhere along the line - after the war
ELDORADO out of San Diego and DESRON 24 in Newport, with a couple of DC tours in between. Bremerhaven was his last job.

I added one of a Rhine River Patrol boat, the slide was titled pass in
review. I'd be delighted to see these used any way you would like. I
think it's safe to assume that they're not official USN. They were with
a bunch of family pics, almost certainly taken with his camera, although
he must have handed it to someone else to shoot the ones he is in. So
for credit, it would just be RADM C. W. Moses, USN (Ret).

Jim Moses CDR, USN (Ret.)

Perhaps the most interesting shot for most of us is this one showing three 80' ELCOs being returned by the Soviets:

jhVo7.jpg

The other photos can be seen here: [url] http://s73.photobucket.com/user/alross2/library/MOSES?sort=3&page=1[/url]

Al Ross

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Jun 17, 2014 - 4:37pm
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Al;
Nice photo, I found one online some time back, that was taken from across the water and it has Vosper and Elcc PT's in it,
.take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Jun 17, 2014 - 8:06pm
Total Posts: 2841 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am



I know it's a little late to chime in on this post now but, is there any confirmation of these boats actually surviving now, mainly the nine Elcos?



Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 14, 2016 - 8:24am
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I know it's a little late to chime in on this post now but, is there any confirmation of these boats actually surviving now, mainly the nine Elcos?



Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 14, 2016 - 8:25am
Total Posts: 136 | Joined: Jan 17, 2016 - 1:28pm



I know it's a little late to chime in on this post now but, is there any confirmation of these boats actually surviving now, mainly the nine Elcos?



Posted By: ThePTboater | Posted on: Mar 14, 2016 - 8:25am
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Nic;

RON 29: 552-554, 556, 560, 561 scuttled Barents Sea 1956.

RON 34: 498 499, 501-504.506-508 stricken and destroyed 1954 500 scuttled Barents Sea 1956.

RON 35: 510-515 stricken and destroyed 1954, 516 scuttled BArenst Sea 1956, 517 returned USN Bremerhaven Germany July 1955. 518-521 scuttled in Barents Sea 1956.

731 series: 23 of a total of 31 Boats were returned to USN in July 1955 Bremerhaven, Germany. Only 731 was scuttled in Barents Sea 1956. the other 7 were stricken(probably used for parts).


All this info is in ALLIED COASTAL FORCES OF WORLD WAR TWO: VOLUME II VOSPER MTB'S AND U.S. ELCO's BY JOHN LAMBERT AND AL ROSS II.
It is hard to find, but if you can, get a copy, because its one of the PT Boat Bibles.
Take care,
TED





Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 14, 2016 - 8:46am
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my father in law brought PTs from Russia after Lend Lease over to Turkey where they were off loaded. Allegedly there are films of this but I have never found them in the house. He was on The Rushmore

Jimbo

Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Mar 31, 2016 - 4:36pm
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Jim;
found this on USS Rushmore (LSD 14) : "USS Rushmore was present for ceremonies at Istanbul, Turkey, in May 1954 on the occasion of the return of various small lend-lease vessels from the USSR. Rushmore returned these ex-Soviet Navy vessels to the United States."
Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Mar 31, 2016 - 5:32pm
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now if I can ever find the film reels!!


Jimbo

Posted By: Jimbo Melanson | Posted on: Apr 1, 2016 - 3:46am
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Ted, I was station in Bremerhaven July 55 and I do not remember any boats there from the Russians. I made a trip to Kiel in the summer of 56 on a boat from the Weser River Patrol to meet the Russians returning many Pt Boats. I would like to hear from you so if you would e-mail me at robertbobbyedmond@hotmail.com
Hope to hear from you.

Robert Englund

Robert Englund

Posted By: Robert Englund | Posted on: May 21, 2016 - 10:32am
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Robert;
Good to hear from you again.
Here is the link to our previous conversation on this subject:
[url]http://www.ptboatforum.com/cgi-bin/MB2/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=1001&st=0&nd=10&pg=1&sc=20[/url]

Thanks to Chip and Frank(who tipped Chip off to the photo), we now have another photo of this turnover process, and in the photo the Russians have painted the USN numbers back on the hulls of several boats. Including forum member RCR's PT 740, which he purchased around 1998, as he posted in the series of previous posts(see Link), he still had remains of the boat at that time, I have not heard from him in quite a while, but I hope he sees this photo to see what his boat looked like in July 1955. This photo is taken at Kiel July 5, 1955.

jhKp8.jpg

jhuly.jpg
Back of photo.


Take care,
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: May 21, 2016 - 7:19pm
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Thanks Ted, Chip, Frank. That's a rare shot, not many images of the 731-760s are around. I see they still carried the compressed air driven torpedo tubes.




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: May 22, 2016 - 5:33am
Total Posts: 1700 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am



May I ask someone to put those photos here once again. No images are available at the link in the first message.
Igor



Posted By: IgorNSK | Posted on: Apr 28, 2018 - 9:58pm
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Will attempt to salvage photos.
Dick . . .



Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Apr 30, 2018 - 6:06am
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Images should now be viewable in both AL's and Ted's previous posts

Dick . . . .





Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Apr 30, 2018 - 8:42am
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Thank you Dick, we truly appreciate all you do for us. [:-cheers-:]




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Apr 30, 2018 - 5:10pm
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