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Forum Name: PT Boats - General
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Topic: PT 109, PT66
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I hope you guys don't mind me posting all these shots. I've had somer frre time lately and thought I'd like to share these great photos with everyone .

The PT 109 shot is from the movie.

My father Id'ed the other boat as PT 66. If this is so this boat was in the training squad. Anybody know this boat?

[IMage]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/PT109.jpg[/IMage]

[IMage]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/7.jpg[/IMage]



Posted By: Gary Szot | Posted on: May 13, 2007 - 11:27am
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Gary,

I'm fairly certain the first photo is a shot of Squadron 5 running off Panama during WWII. The lead boat is the 105 -- not the 109. It's not from the movie "PT 109," or even the movie "They Were Expendable."

Over the years, at least since JFK was President, that photo and one or two others of the 105 taken at the same time and place, have been occasionally altered so that the "105" on the charthouse reads "109," then printed in various books and publications.

Interesting shot of the war-weary old PT 66, though.

Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: May 13, 2007 - 12:34pm
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Gary - Yes, that's the 105 and is not from the movie. The other shot is indeed PT-66 (I think at Samar, PI) at war's end (note part of aft canopy from another boat lying across the forward deck). She was not among the boats listed as burned when fighting ended.

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: May 14, 2007 - 11:12am
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Thanks Will;

I have been surfing around a bit and I found the other print with PT 105 id'ed in the shot. Identical photos with the exception of the boat number.



Posted By: Gary Szot | Posted on: May 14, 2007 - 11:17am
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It's weird. I have even seen another shot of the 105 from the same series with the boat number altered to 109.

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: May 14, 2007 - 5:37pm
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The 109 boat at this particular time would have been identical to the 105 boat. If you look at the other boats in this series they are all configured and painted the same.

Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: May 14, 2007 - 8:07pm
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No that engine canopy is really from PT 66(Known as "Cheeta" at the time of this photo, she also had a pin up girl painted on the front of the cabin). They just mounted a late series Elco 80 engineroom vent/access hatch, on top of the aft trunk.
TED



Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: May 15, 2007 - 12:55pm
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The photo taken of PT-66 is one of a series done during the final distruction of the boat by burning. I am guessing that the engine room hatch was set on the foredeck and all the other hatches opened up to increase the efficiency of the fire below decks. I seem to remember seeing other photos in the series at PT Boats, Inc. and one in Victor Chun's book.

Chip Marshall
Silver Spring, Maryland USA

Chip Marshall

Posted By: Chip Marshall | Posted on: May 17, 2007 - 1:51pm
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Chip;

The picture of PT 66 was actually taken by my dad, Chester Szot RON 36 PT 525. He had the unfortunate duty at the end of the war to scrap these boats.



Posted By: Gary Szot | Posted on: May 17, 2007 - 2:00pm
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