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Planes of the Solomon Island Campaign
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I reworked my airplanes poster.
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Nathaniel%20Smith/AirplanesoftheSolomonIslandsCampaign1176posterduosmall.jpg[/image]
Use this link to get a hi-res version:
[url]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Nathaniel%20Smith/AirplanesoftheSolomonIslandsCampaign1176posterduo.jpg[/url]
natsmith
Posted By: Nathaniel Smith | Posted on: Dec 11, 2013 - 5:27pm
Total Posts: 211 | Joined: Jan 19, 2008 - 6:55am
Thanks for the Post, you don't realize just how many planes the Allies had during the Pacific Campaign.
Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Dec 12, 2013 - 6:37am
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am
I hate to be a crank, but you need to do some more homework. You have a P-40 in Aleutians campaign markings and your F6F Hellcat on the bottom is in 1945 markings for CV-12 Hornet. Fuchida's Kate in Pearl Harbor markings.....
That said, it's a great concept and could be awesome!
Tracy White
Researcher@Large
Posted By: Tracy White | Posted on: Dec 16, 2013 - 7:54pm
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Nice Nat, thanks for sharing your update!
I dubbed the Japanese Betty the frankenplane, the fuselage looks like it is stitched together. Almost like they took an extra nose and added it on for a tail.
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Dec 17, 2013 - 3:09am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am
Hi Nat . . .
I apologize for a complete lack of civility in a previous post. We all can't be all-knowing experts, rude and condescending.
Dick . . .
Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Dec 17, 2013 - 9:21am
Total Posts: 1417 | Joined: Aug 27, 2006 - 6:36pm
What Dick said........
Will
Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Dec 17, 2013 - 12:16pm
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm
The main reason I frequent this board is to learn from the many that know a lot more than I. Please feel free to expand my knowledge on all things PT.
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/PT-154August1943iso25.png[/image]
natsmith
Posted By: Nathaniel Smith | Posted on: Dec 20, 2013 - 5:19pm
Total Posts: 211 | Joined: Jan 19, 2008 - 6:55am
I apologize for a complete lack of civility in a previous post. We all can't be all-knowing experts, rude and condescending.
Were you referring to my post, or was there one that was deleted?
Tracy White
Researcher@Large
Posted By: Tracy White | Posted on: Jan 4, 2014 - 9:12pm
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Nat, I think your presentation is outstanding. In my day (Feb 1942-June 1944) I would always do poorly on airplane recognition, much less distinguish on the difference in the markings. Oh, I could tell a Corsair from a P-51 but that was about it. Fortuately, other members of the crew excelled at it. Maybe that is why they always kept me in the chartroom when we went into "Battle Stations". P.S. The same thing applies to cars. It must be a gift for some people.
Posted By: Pat Rogers | Posted on: Jan 5, 2014 - 9:01am
Total Posts: 72 | Joined: Oct 10, 2006 - 3:21am
Thank you for the poster and info. Now when my F-I-L tells me they were working with the "Black Cats" or "AiraCobra" or whatever else, I'll be able to put a plane to the name. ( Pretty sorry for a 23 year AF veteran [:-stong-:]
Is this a commercially available poster? Or would I be able to have it printed to poster size?
Rick Schaefer
Splinter PT 63
TM3c John E Mirus
Solomon Islands
Dec 43 - Jan 45
Posted By: rickas | Posted on: Jan 5, 2014 - 2:25pm
Total Posts: 82 | Joined: Dec 26, 2013 - 5:16pm
I have the original TIF file for this poster. It can be 48 x 32 x 200 dpi or 24 x 16 x 400 dpi. The problem is that it is 185mB. Tell me the size you want and I'll post the TIF file in a Drop Box account for a week. I just do not have enough space to keep it there very long. I have the copyright for the entire poster but I have no intention of charging for this. You must not sell it either as I have not received permission from the original artists for the individual planes. It would make a terrific poster.
If this board would like to sell it or make it available I'd love to donate it.
This is what it looks like in full resolution.
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Nathaniel%20Smith/Zeke.png[/image]
natsmith
Posted By: Nathaniel Smith | Posted on: Jan 5, 2014 - 6:09pm
Total Posts: 211 | Joined: Jan 19, 2008 - 6:55am
Pat ... thanks for the complement. My Dad had a book of aircraft recognition silhouettes with pictures like the ones below. You didn't have much time to identify them. And even if you identified them as friendly ... some of them still attacked you as they did not do the same. I cannot image the stress of your combat missions. And attacks on PT boat by airplanes were usually at night.
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Nathaniel%20Smith/Japaneseaircraftsilhouettesx100.jpg[/image]
natsmith
Posted By: Nathaniel Smith | Posted on: Jan 5, 2014 - 6:24pm
Total Posts: 211 | Joined: Jan 19, 2008 - 6:55am
I have the copyright for the entire poster but I have no intention of charging for this. You must not sell it either as I have not received permission from the original artists for the individual planes.
If this poster is made up of a collection of artwork from other people you have not received permission to use, it is extremely misguided for you to claim you have copyright on the "entire poster" and could result in legal charges against you. Take it from someone who nearly got sued himself (me) over copyright, you need to educate yourself as to what copyright allows and does not. If I miss-read your intent, I apologize. I'm not trying to be a "know it all."
Tracy White
Researcher@Large
Posted By: Tracy White | Posted on: Jan 6, 2014 - 10:12pm
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Dick ... is there a way that I can block Tracy White from responding to my posts?
natsmith
Posted By: Nathaniel Smith | Posted on: Jan 7, 2014 - 4:39am
Total Posts: 211 | Joined: Jan 19, 2008 - 6:55am
Well said Dick !! My mom taught me as a child if you have nothing good to say then keep your mouth shut and go play elsewhere.
Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Jan 7, 2014 - 3:03pm
Total Posts: 371 | Joined: Sep 5, 2012 - 4:57pm
Well, Richard - Now see what you did? I wonder what our mutual expert would say.....
Will
Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Jan 7, 2014 - 10:32pm
Total Posts: 1955 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm
Oh, for Pete's sake. Fine.
Tracy White
Researcher@Large
Posted By: Tracy White | Posted on: Jan 8, 2014 - 1:56pm
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Damm Tracy,
Don't let them get under your skin give'em both barrels when needed remember "Full speed ahead and damm the Torpedos" was said for a reason!!!
NaT
Great poster, But please lighten up a little Mate !
Here endth the Lesson.
Now to get back to "PT Boats"
Yours
D.buck
Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Jan 9, 2014 - 12:23am
Total Posts: 332 | Joined: May 4, 2008 - 2:59am
Every message board has its own personality and values. I never got an answer out of Dick if his know it all shot was aimed at me, but when the owner of a board expresses that, there's not a lot one can do. This is not a democracy.
I am far from a know it all - I freely admin there is a lot I don't know and while PT boats are of interest to me, I have no interest in becoming an expert in them - those experts already exist and I have other things I'm behind on. I can bring expertise on archival research and naval camouflage to the table and I will if the questions come up.
I've been posting finding from my research - for free - on my site for over 8 years now.... that's at least one document a month since 2005, including this PT Boats as mine layers instructions (not used in service as far as I can tell, but interesting to see that it was a possibility) and more than a few PT boat camouflage docs. I will take exception to anyone who says I don't provide any value.
But I also am a firm believer in offering a GOOD product, and doing the RIGHT thing. Offering a work with incorrect information using the works of others without their permission, well.... I know where I stand here now. I'll still check in from time to time to see if there's anything I can help with, but there are a couple of people here who have made their positions clear and so be it.
Tracy White
Researcher@Large
Posted By: Tracy White | Posted on: Jan 10, 2014 - 9:23am
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I guess I just don't understand the attack on Tracy. If I was reading this correctly, he was only offering advise. Why the need to be negative with the guy. I have been a member here since the beginning of time, and trust me, many of you are down right pain's in the asses when it comes to being correct on a model or anything associated with the boats. You take it right down to the nuts and bolts of the boats, and if anyone is incorrect, you have no problem correcting them. Sorry, I read all the post's a few times, and I do not see anything that Tracy did wrong. This is how we lose good people on this board, and if fact, this is how we have lost a few WWII PT BOAT VETS since I have been here. Our board was set up for knowledge and a place where people can enjoy and learn all they can about our WWII PT BOATS. I happen to think it's the best WWII online board around, with great people and some my friends. Let's not lose another person that can contribute and pass on important information.
Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Jan 10, 2014 - 8:56pm
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am
I agree wholeheartedly with Frank! Jerry
Jerry Gilmartin
PT658 Crewman
Portland OR
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Jan 11, 2014 - 1:16am
Total Posts: 1473 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm
Well said frank,
Yours,
D.buck
Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Jan 13, 2014 - 3:08am
Total Posts: 332 | Joined: May 4, 2008 - 2:59am