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I know that Dumas makes a complete model for PT-212. I think the scale is 1/30, which makes it roughly a 30 inch build. Can you purchase after-market parts for these boats such as 20mm or 40mm guns, roll off racks, torpedoes, you get the idea..................I have a friend who would like to try and build this model, but would need to update her. See, Dave, this is why we need a HIGGINS PT BOAT from ITALERI............

Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 4:49am
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am

As far as I can tell, no. It's a mongrel scale and a generally inaccurate and crude kit. You might be able to find some 1/32 or 1/35 scale parts which are relatively close to, but still not to the same, scale. Scratch-building time...

Al Ross

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 6:06am
Total Posts: 993 | Joined: Oct 30, 2006 - 8:19pm

Trust me Al, I would never have the Kit built for me, but I have exhausted my builder's who are too busy to build him a scratch built model, and he would like to try and build it himself. He wants to present it to his Father who served on PT-309. Stan is way too busy, and recovering from some Health issues, and the other friends are busy with other projects. I think the 1/35 scale parts would look terrible, HURRY ITALERI, HURRY............

Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 6:13am
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am

Frank: I have put together two of these Dumas Kits as a replica of our Higgins PT 242. I am pleased with the way they turned out. I have it outfitted with armament and roll-off torpedoes like our boat. The extra guns and torpedo racks are 1/32 scale from Loyalhanna Dockyard. I could not find 1/32 torpedoes anywhere so I had to build them from dowel rod. The kit does not come with a radar mast so I had to build it also. A true modeler would be very critical of it I am sure but I am satisfied. It looks like a Higgins to me. I built one for my son's Doctors office and he shows it to many of his WW2 patients.

C. J. Willis

Posted By: CJ Willis | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 7:06am
Total Posts: 464 | Joined: Nov 5, 2006 - 5:02pm

C.J.
Post some photos of your two boats, please. I have one of these sitting on the shelf.
take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 8:13am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

Hi Frank and CJ.
CJ sent this photo to me that I posted to this board a few years ago. CJ may have painted the boat since then, but this is one of the boats CJ built. Jerry

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/CJholdingcompletedModelPT242.jpg[/image]

Jerry Gilmartin

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 10:29am
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C.J. I think it's great that you built these boats, and I am sure you are proud of your effort's. I certainly meant no disrespect to your modeling skills, but for me, I could not put this kit in my exhibit, Can you tell the difference by using 1/32 parts for a 1/30 boat? Please send a photo of two C.J. so I can send them to my friend to see the kit built.

Ahoy there.

Depending on how accurate the scale actually are there may be very ittle difference between 1/32 and 1/30 parts. Is the boat model a true 1/39 scale? I've run into this sort of thing with WW2 aircraft models that were supposed to be 1/48 scle but were closer to 1/50+ when the model was measured and scaled up.

Measure the hull of tthe boat and then m ultiply those dimensions by 30 to be sure it's 1/30 scale. You might bet really lucky and find that it's beween 1/32 ad 1/35.

Cheers from Peter

"Give me a fast boat for we want to get out of harm's way too."

Posted By: PeterTareBuilder2 | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 11:58am
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Jerry thanks for posting this picture. I don't know how to post pictures to the board. I'm from the slide rule era of Engineers not the computer era. Peter I have since added the crew that you gave to me to this boat. I think it helps the look. Thanks again Peter.

C. J. Willis

Ahoy there C.J.

Glad to have been able to help. Figures bring a model alive for me.

Cheers from Peter

"Give me a fast boat for we want to get out of harm's way too."

Posted By: PeterTareBuilder2 | Posted on: Aug 7, 2013 - 10:30pm
Total Posts: 204 | Joined: Dec 8, 2012 - 6:03pm

C.J.;
THE MODEL LOOKS GREAT. MY EXPERIENCE WITH DUMAS PT-109 KIT WAS THAT IT WAS 1/29TH SCALE. I HAD TO MAKE EVERYTHING FROM THE DECK UP, MYSELF.

Steve Tuhy

Posted By: Steve Tuhy | Posted on: Aug 8, 2013 - 10:05pm
Total Posts: 114 | Joined: Oct 17, 2006 - 5:41am

Didn't the Dumas Elco kit come packed in a wood box at one time, with an added bonus of having the parts for a smaller scale Higgins boat printed on the inside? Ted, you might know the answer to this.

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Aug 13, 2013 - 12:58pm
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