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ť Topic: Italeri PT 109 Build 2, by Stuart Hurley
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In addition to David Waples, Stu Hurley is also going through the effort to document construction of this kit. I truly appreciate these 2 men working so hard to create historically accurate models that will "look right" even to nitpickers like myself, and for sharing their work with others that can appreciate it. Stu's build is also a work in progress, updates will be made as work progresses: [url]http://www.pt103.com/Italeri_PT109_Build_Stuart_Hurley.html[/url]. Stu is building the 109 as she is seen shipping out on the S.S. Joseph Stanton: [url]http://www.pt103.com/images/ptpics/Photo_Scan_PT_109_Ferried_Stern.jpg[/url].

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 7:58am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Wow! Some incredible work, Stu. And Jeff, thanks for posting his photos.

Can't wait to see more of Stu's work on this kit, as well as that of Dave and Bob.

Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 1:48pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am

That is "Outstanding work guys. Your attention to detail knows no limit. I'm wondering if you suffer from the same problem I have trying to shut off my imagination when it's time to get some sleep.

Great work, can't wait until you get the airbrush fired up.

Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 1:54pm
Total Posts: 371 | Joined: Sep 5, 2012 - 4:57pm

Do you modelers ever keep track of the hours you take to complete a model? I sure like to
know.
Victor

Victor K Chun

Posted By: victorkchun | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 4:23pm
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Whew! For a second there I thought you were on your second boat Stu!

Excellent work! I see you have the Italeri upgrade set. How did you find the parts? It's not available over here yet.

I'm just starting on the torpedo tubes. The one thing that has my mystified, and I'm looking at the factory drawings, is the tripping lever covers. The drawings don't make too much sense to me. I'm curious what you did for the wingnuts/thumbscrews. I've ordered some from Royal Model but I have a slight concern they might be a little large. I wish I could find some detailed photographs of the tube hardware.

A thought for you regarding the jack screws, or whatever they're called, used to drive the torpedo tube into firing position. I purchased some threaded rods to replace the kit parts from a company called Scale Hardware.

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 7:08pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Roy,
Yes. It's 3.16 am. here.

Victor,
Never really counted it up, but I would reckon on at least 500 hours.

David,
The conversion set is really nice, the masts look good and the etched straps and buckles for the raft a nice touch. I used Bronco models wing nuts and also some from Dragon, supplied in their armour kits. Thanks for the tip about the jackscrews. I'll look out for them.

Thanks for the kind words all.

Best Regards,
Stu.

Measure twice, cut once.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 7:16pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Do you modelers ever keep track of the hours you take to complete a model? I sure like to
know.
Victor

Victor K Chun

Actually Victor, I probably spend as much or more time researching than building. Add them together and well.... just don't tell my wife! :-)

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 7:21pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

David,
You make a good point there. The research on this project has, so far, taken much longer than the work on the kit. and continues as more questions arise.

Best Regards,
Stu.

Measure twice, cut once.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 8:07pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Stu,
On your tubes did you add new rivets?
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 8:35pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Stu - at the risk of sounding obsessed, can you tell me what particular kits the wing nuts came from please?

Jerry Beasley

Posted By: Jerry Beasley | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 8:41pm
Total Posts: 89 | Joined: Jan 9, 2008 - 4:27pm

David,
Yes, cut from the wheels of an old Tamiya Tiger tank.
In answer to your previous post, quite a good photo here of the buisiness end of a tube showing the tripping lever cover.
You can see it is in two parts. The top plate has four slotted webs. The bottom part is welded to the tube case and has the wingnuts on threaded rod, connected to the bottom plate, which swing down to release the cover.

[url]http://pt-king.gdinc.com/Melville1.html[/url]

Best Regards,
Stu.

Measure twice, cut once.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 9:04pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Jerry,
I think it was the Panzer Mk. IV H . Sprue E has ten wingnuts in two sizes along with some track parts, and I think there were three sprues in the kit. There are some in the Panther G IIRC but I have had them for ages so not sure. I just keep all this stuff for later.

Best Regards,
Stu.

Measure twice, cut once.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: Apr 22, 2013 - 9:10pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Stu added an update for engine room hatch and aft windshields, 20mm oerlikon gun, helm, and day room cabin re-visited. Very nice work Stu, it is coming along well!

[url]http://www.pt103.com/Italeri_PT109_Build_Stuart_Hurley.html[/url]

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: May 10, 2013 - 11:03am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Thank you Jeff

Best Regards,
Stu.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: May 12, 2013 - 10:30am
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Guys,
BEAUTIFUL work and well researched details. I am very intrigued! Glad to hear you're documenting (photographically) what you are doing and how you doing it. I hope you plan to put them into a book. The more books on making PT models that are produced then more will learn and build on that to make ever better PT models going forward!

Go, go, GO!

Bridge

Posted By: TheBridge | Posted on: May 13, 2013 - 10:30am
Total Posts: 318 | Joined: Nov 22, 2009 - 3:04pm

Thanks for the encouragement.
It's good to have all the experts on this forum to turn to for help with the little details.

Best Regards,
Stu.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: May 13, 2013 - 11:15pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Stu added a few updates, a basic day room cabin interior and some seldom seen coaming brackets at the engine hatch and aft turret: [url]http://www.pt103.com/Italeri_PT109_Build_Stuart_Hurley.html[/url].

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: May 15, 2013 - 7:32am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Stuart;
You are doing an OUTSTANDING job! Keep it coming!!
Take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: May 15, 2013 - 8:14am
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

Simply outstanding Stuart , you are adding detail that I am sure many of the model guys on the board will copy. Although I am no model builder, I will be passing the changes on to my buddy Stan, after PT-61 project of course........................

Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: May 15, 2013 - 12:31pm
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am

Holy micro-detail, Batman!

Oh, man, Stu...that is going to be one great-looking model.

Posted By: Drew Cook | Posted on: May 15, 2013 - 2:21pm
Total Posts: 1306 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Best Regards,
Stu.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: May 15, 2013 - 10:52pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Stu added an update detailing changes to the forward torpedo tube mounts and dead lights. Nice work Stu, I like the added bridge details too. The update can be found on a second page here: [url]http://www.pt103.com/Italeri_PT109_Build_Stuart_Hurley_2.html[/url].

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: May 24, 2013 - 8:39am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Stu added another update, he's got most of the assemblies together and ready for paint. Really nice work Stu, all the research, details added, and corrections made impress me very much!

[url]http://www.pt103.com/Italeri_PT109_Build_Stuart_Hurley_2.html[/url]

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jun 12, 2013 - 5:39am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Stu incredible work, would you consider doing one for my Mosquito Fleet Exhibit. All of my boats are Museum quality, and seeing your work it certainly falls into that category. E mail me when you have the chance, I would love to talk with you.

Posted By: Frank Andruss | Posted on: Jun 12, 2013 - 6:30am
Total Posts: 3964 | Joined: Feb 9, 2007 - 11:41am

Very nice Stu! Looking forward to the paint.
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Jun 12, 2013 - 9:51pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Hi,all
Thanks for all your help so far with getting the details right.
It will be good to finally cover over the white bits.

Best Regards,
Stu.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: Jun 12, 2013 - 10:22pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am

Hi Stu, I really, really enjoy looking at our work on John's PT-103 site! Great feel for the details. I want to ask a question on one of the details. Can you email me at bridge@pt-157.com

Posted By: TheBridge | Posted on: Jun 13, 2013 - 5:47am
Total Posts: 318 | Joined: Nov 22, 2009 - 3:04pm

Hi, guys! I cannot get either of the PT103 tabs to open up for me. Anyone else having difficulty?

SteveS156

Posted By: SteveS156 | Posted on: Jun 13, 2013 - 6:35am
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Duh! Senior moment! didn't page down!

SteveS156

Posted By: SteveS156 | Posted on: Jun 13, 2013 - 6:39am
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I'm at a loss for words other than WOW and shrink me down to 1/35

Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Jun 13, 2013 - 7:48am
Total Posts: 371 | Joined: Sep 5, 2012 - 4:57pm

Absolutely stunning!!! Thanks for sharing all the research.

Posted By: Bob Butler | Posted on: Jun 13, 2013 - 9:08am
Total Posts: 192 | Joined: Mar 23, 2013 - 11:58am

Thanks, Roy and Bob
Jeff and Dave have been really helpful with details, drawings and pointing me in the right direction.

Best Regards,
Stu.

Posted By: Stuart Hurley | Posted on: Jun 13, 2013 - 12:57pm
Total Posts: 255 | Joined: Mar 19, 2013 - 3:32am