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» Topic: PT 10
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Ok, guys.
Anyone [image]http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x164/willday6/PT-10_zps043b85f1.jpg[/image] know whose navy this belongs to?

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Feb 22, 2013 - 8:44pm
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That is a post-war Japanese PT, Will

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Feb 23, 2013 - 6:42am
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Thanks, Garth.

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Feb 23, 2013 - 7:46am
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Ted.

Is it very similar to the old Tamiya PT-15 boat?

[image]http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/79003torpedo/top2.jpg[/image]

OOPs. Seems PT-15 was in the class that superceded the PT-10.

Cheers

"Give me a fast boat for we want to get out of harm's way too."

Posted By: PeterTareBuilder2 | Posted on: Feb 23, 2013 - 8:35am
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Gene put up some images of Japanese PT's, here's what looks like another PT 10: [url]http://pt-king.gdinc.com/images/misc8.jpg[/url]




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Feb 23, 2013 - 9:28am
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Jeff,

This is about the clearest photo I've ever seen of Japanese boats! Based on Shizuo Fukui's JAPANESE NAVAL VESSELS AT THE END OF WORLD WAR II and Hans Lengerer's MOTOR TORPEDO BOATS OF THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE NAVY articles in WARSHIP INTERNATIONAL, these appear to be Type 38/H-10 class motor gunboats. The primary identifying feature is the curved exhaust aft of the low cockpit. These were steel boats 18m x 4.3m powered by radial engines! The hull numbers are consistent with those noted by Fukui.

Al Ross



Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Feb 24, 2013 - 12:10pm
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Radial engines??? I wonder how they had them set up, direct drive would sure make for a high center of gravity and shaft angle.




Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Feb 24, 2013 - 2:55pm
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Lengerer doesn't address that, unfortunately. However, I did a little digging and discovered that the Kinsei 41 engines had a 48 diameter, were about 6' long, and weighed about 1200 lbs. The 4M2500 was about 45 square, about 106 long, and weighes about 2950 lbs. On the 4M, the crankshaft centerline is about 18 above the lowest engine component; that for the Type 41 would be about 24. Dimensionally, the two engines are not that different, although there was a major weight difference.

It's another item to discover....

Al



Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Feb 24, 2013 - 5:20pm
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Al;
The Friedrich Files identify this as: H 38-class (10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 232, 24,. 25, 26, 51-100) Japanese motor torpedo/gunboat, built 1943-44, and Gene's second photo is :T 38-class (241-286, 457-467, 506, 528) Japanese motor torpedo boats

Any guess on where this photo was taken? Home Islands?? The vessels in the back ground are obviously all Japanese.

It is very interesting these two excellent photos surfaced right now. Thanks Gene!!
Take care,
TED





Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Feb 25, 2013 - 5:02am
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