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The categories have been announced....

Boats, Speedboats, Motor Torpedo Boats, Motor Patrol Boats
418 All scales, types, and eras

I'll be there with at least one PT Boat. Probably PT-105.

Anybody else?

Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 14, 2013 - 5:45am
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Hey Dave, was this the show last week or is there another one? I guess the 623 would not be allowed.

Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Feb 18, 2013 - 2:36pm
Total Posts: 371 | Joined: Sep 5, 2012 - 4:57pm

Roy,

The IPMS Nationals are held in August ................

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Feb 18, 2013 - 3:47pm
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Hi Roy,
As Gart said the show is in August. What are your concerns about the 623 being allowed to compete?
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 18, 2013 - 8:04pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

I thought this show was just for plastic model kits. With the 623 being a bit larger and scratch built from wood, wouldn't that be a problem?

Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Feb 19, 2013 - 7:44am
Total Posts: 371 | Joined: Sep 5, 2012 - 4:57pm

Roy, if not mistaken they usually have a scratch built category at these things. They tend not to take radio controlled boats too seriously , as they would much rather see something from plastic. A thought would be to bring the 623 as a display only piece. I brought several of my models from my exhibit a few times as display only, and people really loved them. I refused to take them out of the cases, so they could not be entered into the contest........

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Feb 19, 2013 - 11:31am
Total Posts: 3497 | Joined: Oct 9, 2006 - 6:09am

We recently held an IPMS Regional event at the University of North Florida (UNF) a few weeks ago. The "P" stands for 'PLASTIC" so the model(s) MUST have something plastic on it in order to be entered and judged. They seriously frown upon Radio Controlled models and any R/C model would not be allowed to enter, unless of course you want to yank out all the electronics, which is something I would never do.

I had just finished a commissioned War of 1812 two masted armed merchant Colonial vessel of the "FAIR AMERICAN". I wanted very much to enter the model under the sailing ship division. I was told that being ther is no plastic aon the model and it is all wooden construction, under the IPMS rules I could not enter the model.

Frankie A is correct in saying that I could have just displayed my ship model, but to be able to have it judged is something else for the builder.

I have seen a lot of "drop dead" R/C boat and ship models and I do not understand the IPMS rules when it comes down to allowing these type models in competition. Roy Forbes PT-623 fits into this slot perfectly! I think IPMS should re-write the rulebook on this matter or at least allow for a special space under R/C models.

Frank Ryczek, Jr.
Modeler/Friend RON-10 PT-169 " ZEBRA SNAFU "

HIGH TIDES ALWAYS!

YOUR FRIEND THROUGH SCALE SHIP MODELING AND PT BOAT HISTORY!

Posted By: FRANK | Posted on: Feb 19, 2013 - 1:00pm
Total Posts: 349 | Joined: Oct 7, 2007 - 2:09pm

Well thanks for the update guys and kind words about the 623. My stern 40mm has some plastic in it but I think I'll pass on this event.

Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Feb 19, 2013 - 1:18pm
Total Posts: 371 | Joined: Sep 5, 2012 - 4:57pm

It probably wouldn't be allowed. IPMS is for plastic models or at least mostly plastic. I don't think they should change what they are to accommodate other mediums of modeling.

We do have another club in Denver who holds a major regatta every year. I'm sure there are other's across the country as well.

Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 19, 2013 - 9:10pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Good luck David, although I don't think you need it!

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Feb 20, 2013 - 9:04am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Frank R.

You mean that the International Plastic Modeller's Society will NOT allow a styrene radio-controlled model such as the 1/32 scale Lindberg PT boat or either the 1/35 Italeri PT109 or Italeri PT-596 boats ONLY because they are radio-controlled? Pardon me but that is just plain stupid in my opinion since you can't see the radio-control stuff inside the hull when the deck and cabins on. If this is the case and styrene radio-controlled models are not allowed then IPMS should change their name to ISDPMS for International Static Display Modeller's Society.

I bet the lose a lot of propective members because of that no radio-controlled models allowed rule.

Cheers

"Give me a fast boat for we want to get out of harm's way too."

Posted By: PeterTareBuilder2 | Posted on: Feb 20, 2013 - 9:18am
Total Posts: 204 | Joined: Dec 8, 2012 - 6:03pm

Time out on the field!

Okay, I decided to review the IPMS competition rules. They are clear but individual contests word it differently. The use of plastic is encouraged but not required. Models are judged on their fit and finish. So if your R/C boat has the best fit and finish compared to the other entries you would win. You can't throw out R/C because many dioramas and models incorporate different electronic effects. I know I've seen R/C tanks.

That said recognize that 99.99% of the entries are from plastic model kits. I'm going to drop Carl Musselman a line and ask him to weigh in since he has been a judge for a while now and can give better insight on this than me.

Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 20, 2013 - 6:50pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Roy,
I for one would love to spend about 10 hours drooling over the 623 Boat, and taking a few 1,000 detail photos - I think you should bring it to the NATS this year and let everyone see your beautiful workmanship.
Jerry

Jerry Beasley

Posted By: Jerry Beasley | Posted on: Feb 20, 2013 - 7:04pm
Total Posts: 89 | Joined: Jan 9, 2008 - 4:27pm

I heard back from Carl Musselman and Tony Bunch, and we all agree after reviewing the rules that it is not required that a model be made of plastic.
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Feb 21, 2013 - 8:12pm
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

I have had the chance to go to several of these events, mostly to set up a few of my PT BOATS as display only. I could enter any one of them, but I do not ever take them out of the cases. I have seen several RC entered boats of all types, although not one ever won anything. I just feel that judges seem to by pass these entries, mostly because of slim details on a large RC boat. Although this would not be the case with Roy's wonderful model, I have learned that for some reason these large scale RC models do not fair well in the winners bracket., at least in the contest's in my area............

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Feb 22, 2013 - 5:47am
Total Posts: 3497 | Joined: Oct 9, 2006 - 6:09am

Well guys thank you so much for the continued kind words about my project. I will give the event some thought and look for the details on the web. By then, I'll have the barge done and if it's only going to go for show, well heck, lets take a barge full of Japanese soldiers as well.

Posted By: Roy Forbes | Posted on: Feb 22, 2013 - 7:59am
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