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ť Topic: Torpedo Tube Training Cranks
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I found it interesting to see the rather low tech way the torpedo tube training cranks were secured to their chocks. I've never seen an image showing the cranks close up, I'd appreciate seeing it if you have one. The ties would be an nice detail for modelers to add:

[image]http://pt103.com/images/PT_Boat_Elco_103_Class_Torpedo_Tube_Training_Crank_Perspective.jpg[/image]

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 12, 2013 - 3:59pm
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Well done Jeff. I've seen photos but none that I can remember showing that detail. Not only the ties but the "L" shaped bracket with the whole in it makes for a nice detail. It doesn't get any lower tech that those ties. Thanks for sharing!
Dave

David Waples

Posted By: David Waples | Posted on: Jan 14, 2013 - 5:40am
Total Posts: 1679 | Joined: Jan 2, 2007 - 9:55pm

Nice job Jeff. I have been scouring some of my photos to try and capture this crank, but nothing close enough to grab any real detail. I will keep looking to see what I have. I am most interested in finding a real photo that might show these simple ties.

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jan 14, 2013 - 6:01am
Total Posts: 3497 | Joined: Oct 9, 2006 - 6:09am

Frank,

Victor Chuns American PT Boats in WW11 Volume Two Page 41 top lefthand photo showing crewman working on aft gun turret clearly showes the cranks supports and tie downs you are looking for.

How are the cats any further action against the PT Boat fleet?

You should look out for that Russian Blue they are great hunters!

D.buck

Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Jan 16, 2013 - 1:36am
Total Posts: 332 | Joined: May 4, 2008 - 2:59am

Oops missed a bit ,it appears that Jeffs L bracket might be a timber support on this boat what do you think?

D.buck

Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Jan 16, 2013 - 1:43am
Total Posts: 332 | Joined: May 4, 2008 - 2:59am

Thanks David, it's good to know that images back the rope ties up.

I have Victor's first book but not his second. I'm guessing that at some point they changed the forward mount from a wood block to the steel angle. The Elco drawing is revision 6 but the revision list didn't come out well and is hard to read.

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 16, 2013 - 3:41am
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Jeff: The details in your illustrations are excellent I often visit your website.

Donald Shannon

Posted By: Donald Shannon | Posted on: Jan 16, 2013 - 1:34pm
Total Posts: 47 | Joined: Apr 24, 2009 - 10:07am

David, thank for pointing that out. I need to look at my own photo's much better than I do. This photo in Victor's Book is mine, how dumb I am right? Nope the Cats are now off limits to any boats in my Fleet, as I would next time boil them in oil, just kidding of course.

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jan 16, 2013 - 2:39pm
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Cats are great with sweet and sour sauce. They taste like... Chicken. VBEG

Cheers

"Give me a fast boat for we want to get out of harm's way too."

Posted By: PeterTareBuilder2 | Posted on: Jan 16, 2013 - 4:50pm
Total Posts: 204 | Joined: Dec 8, 2012 - 6:03pm

My Wife is going to kill you. I think she loves those Cats more than me, Chicken huh? I love chicken.

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Jan 16, 2013 - 5:03pm
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Hi Frank,
Interesting to hear that the photo is yours as its nice and clear in Victors book but then sometimes one does not see the small details.

Old Australian receipe for Gallah (crow sized bird )

Take One Gallah
Place in large pot
Cover with water
Add salt and pepper to flavour
Include one large Rock.
Boil until rock is soft
Throw Gallah away
Eat Rock.

I belive the same can be said of trying to cook Cat
Shame on those that try.

However I do recall that in They were Expendble that on Bulkeleys Boat the boys shot a tomcat with a .45!! (nasty) boiled it up and ate it, said it tasted like Duck.
Weather this happened or not is unknown as the Book does not quite follow fact.

D.buck

Posted By: David Buck | Posted on: Jan 17, 2013 - 12:45am
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Jeff - with my model making mantra of ' if I know how it is really suppose to look, I can make it'...I guess it's time that I get out the microscope and add these details to the PT-157 model.

As always, your details give me a thrill!

Bridge

Posted By: TheBridge | Posted on: Jan 17, 2013 - 3:17pm
Total Posts: 318 | Joined: Nov 22, 2009 - 3:04pm

Thanks Donald, I appreciate it.

Bridge, your willingness to tear apart a finished model to add details impresses me. Keep up the good work man!

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 17, 2013 - 3:45pm
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am

Per a request from Bridge, the cranks gridded:

[image]http://www.pt103.com/images/PT_Boat_Elco_103_Class_Torpedo_Tube_Training_Crank_Gridded.jpg[/image]

Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Jan 20, 2013 - 11:54am
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