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» Topic: PT 7
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Aside from a shot or two of her as RCAF B118, this is the only photo of PT 7 I've seen: [IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/7.jpg[/IMaGe]

Anyone have any others?

Al Ross

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Nov 12, 2012 - 4:37pm
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I have others. Which I received from Chip Marshall. You want them?

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 6:20am
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If you posted them here for everyone's benefit, that would be nice.

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 6:28am
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Unfortunately, I am not that proficient in computers to do so, and I don't want to set a photobucket or Flickr account just to sporadically post photos ...

However, Mr. Ross, if you unblock my address from your account, I'll be more than happy to send them to you.

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 7:32am
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Garth, that is surprise, just a while back you posted a bunch of your art work on this board. They were colored profiles. Why can't you post your photos this time? Artwork and Photos are the same thing aren't they? Or is it because Al asked? I and I'm sure most of us on the board would love to see these photos.
SH

Oh yeah, I forgot you don't like initials
Sheldon Hadly

Posted By: Hadly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 8:07am
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Hadly,

No. My offer to Mr. Ross is legit ... and it still stands ...

Those drawings that you remember seeing were posted by Mr. Washiak. Not me.

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 8:15am
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. . . and the beat goes on. . .

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 8:51am
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No, Will ... I am just saying that Mr. Washiak was kind enough to post those drawings FOR me .........

If you would like to help me post those photos here; I'll be MORE than happy to email them to you and ask you to post them.

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 9:34am
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Just have Dick post them as he did your drawings. I am sure he will be happy to assist you.

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 12:59pm
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Garth, and anyone else -
who wish their photos posted can email them to me and if you like add a paragraph or two you'd like to have included within the photos post - no biggy

Dick . . .

Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 1:09pm
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Thanks ..........

As soon as I can find time away from my job search and trying to find an advocate in a human rights issue I'm dealing with, I'll send those photos to Mr. Washiak .....

But, I'll need his email.

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 1:18pm
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The email address is the same as always, just click the little email icon above in Gray or yellow the icon bar and right next to the bold type that reads [b]Posted on:[/b] or copy and paste this link: webmaster@ptboats.org

All the best,
Dick Washichek . . .

Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 1:28pm
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Mr. Ross,

Hi. I looked in the folder on my hard drive and I have a shot of the 7 in the RCN and three shots of a boat being built. It looks like the boat that you posted here ...

The dates are the same as on your photo, but on all three - it says it's PT-8 - BUT it looks just like the boat you posted ........ I'm confused. Mr. Ross, may I please have your permission to email you and show them to you and discuss it with you.

Please?

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 2:29pm
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Email them to Dick and he'll put them up on the board for all of us to enjoy. 7 & 8 had the same external appearance. 7 was wood, 8 was aluminum. 7 became RCAF B118
[IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/B118.jpg[/IMaGe]

Al Ross

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 3:07pm
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OK.

Thank you. Done. If I don't reply after he does? I'm busy. I had a call-back from a company called CARECENTRIX for a Senior Claim Analyst position ....... It's a telecommute job, but I'll jump at it. It is the first good news on the job front I've had since May 1, 2008 .............. I HOPE TO GOD I'LL GET IT.

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 4:06pm
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That is Good news, Garth. I want to wish you good luck on your job search! I am looking forward to seeing those pictures you have of the old PT Boats as well. Take care! Jerry Gilmartin PT658 Portland OR

Jerry Gilmartin

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 4:10pm
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Thanks Jerry .........

My sister, who owns LABLION did say she'll hire me, but I don't know about doing that. My background is in asbestos claim work; recovering delinquent deductibles .............

We'll see ......... I really do want to be reinstated in my former position. I've been told (by the woman at the United Cerebral Palsy I spoke to) that I do have a right and case for that.

So, who knows ...

Good luck with getting a decent job. I hope you find something you like doing.

I worked in the lab at an asbestos mine. I wore all the proper safety equipment in order to minimalize my exposure. Now I don't need to worry about dying and going to hell. That's because I'm fireproof now. VBG ;<)

As a Canadian I'm interested in the Canadian version of this boat.

Thanks and cheers

"Give me a faster PT boat for I'd like to get out of harm's way!"

Posted By: PeterTareBuilder | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 4:49pm
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Photos from Garth . . .

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/T%20Garth%20Connelly/Garth-02.jpg[/image]

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/T%20Garth%20Connelly/Garth-03.jpg[/image]

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/T%20Garth%20Connelly/Garth-04.jpg[/image]

[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/T%20Garth%20Connelly/Garth-01.jpg[/image]

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 5:45pm
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Thanks for those photos. An interesting boat design.

Cheers

"Give me a faster PT boat for I'd like to get out of harm's way!"

Posted By: PeterTareBuilder | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 5:53pm
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Great photos; thanks for sharing. Looks like 7 & 8 were built concurrently, 8 being just aft of 7.
[IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/Garth-04.jpg[/IMaGe] [IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/7-1.jpg[/IMaGe]

Note the cross brace in both photos.

Al Ross

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Nov 13, 2012 - 6:41pm
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[Thank you sir.

Being physically disabled and over 50 doesn't help. I cannot tell you how many times since 2008 that I've applied for jobs - gotten a call-back and the SECOND they heard I was disabled; they would hang up.

Mr. Ross; may I ask a DUMB question? In the RCN numbers - what does the B stand for?

Thanks Jerry .........

My sister, who owns LABLION did say she'll hire me, but I don't know about doing that. My background is in asbestos claim work; recovering delinquent deductibles .............

We'll see ......... I really do want to be reinstated in my former position. I've been told (by the woman at the United Cerebral Palsy I spoke to) that I do have a right and case for that.

So, who knows ...

Good luck with getting a decent job. I hope you find something you like doing.

I worked in the lab at an asbestos mine. I wore all the proper safety equipment in order to minimalize my exposure. Now I don't need to worry about dying and going to hell. That's because I'm fireproof now. VBG ;<)

As a Canadian I'm interested in the Canadian version of this boat.

Thanks and cheers

"Give me a faster PT boat for I'd like to get out of harm's way!"

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 14, 2012 - 7:43am
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Thanks, T.G.!

Will

Posted By: Will Day | Posted on: Nov 14, 2012 - 7:57am
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Great pictures Garth! Thanks for posting them! I am always glad to see more photos whenever possible! Jerry

Jerry Gilmartin

Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Nov 14, 2012 - 12:18pm
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Well, everything I have, you guys have or have seen, so why would I bother asking Mr. Washiak to post them. Sorry for being pessimistic (my current personal situation doesn't lend itself to "allow" me to be "positive" or confidant about my abilities as I once was) ... but, I don't have the "ability" to go get photos like someone like Mr. Ross does ....

But, my dumb question to Mr. Ross stands - what does the B in the RCN numbers stand for and what color would the 7,8,9, 3 boats be in RCN service?

Additionally? In regard to the 9? Could you use the AIRFIX RAF ASRL kit to model her?

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 14, 2012 - 12:36pm
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But, my dumb question to Mr. Ross stands - what does the B in the RCN numbers stand for

I know very little about the RCN numbering system and my references don't say much about it. The RCN system appears to somewhat follow the RN system of Alpha-Numeric pennant numbers. V was initially used on motor torpedo boats. PT3 & 4 were initially numbered V262 & V263, but were renumbered B119 & B120 Their RCAF numbers were M413 & M414 but they may also have carried the RCN numbers when they began serving with the RCAF. PT5, 6', and 7 were numbered B117M407, B123/M447, and B118/M408. PT9 was unique in being numbered S09.

and what color would the 7,8,9, 3 boats be in RCN service?

8 was not transferred to the RCN. The other boats appear in a number of schemes in the photos I have, but I do not know what the colors were.

In regard to the 9? Could you use the AIRFIX RAF ASRL kit to model her?

Same response as I gave for the conversion to MGB61 - 7 scale feet too short, 3 scale feet too narrow, wrong superstructure; requires major surgery to be even remotely accurate.

Al Ross

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Nov 14, 2012 - 4:18pm
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OK found the answer to the B pennant numbers:

First off, all of the RCAF boats fleet vessels were given an “M” pennant number. However, M pennants were given to ships of the RCN and RN. But when the RCAF boats operated in the open waters, then they were classified as minor warships and the RCN gave them “B” pennant numbers. So in reality they had two pennant numbers.

Found the info here.

[url]http://www.docstoc.com/docs/113790385/THE-ROYAL-CANADIAN-AIR-FORCE-FLEET[/url]

Page I and page 5.

Charlie

Posted By: 29navy | Posted on: Nov 14, 2012 - 5:11pm
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Thanks, Charlie. I had seen this document before, but had not bookmarked it. I have most of Pilborough's works.

Al Ross

Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Nov 14, 2012 - 6:21pm
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Thanks Mr. Ross ...

But ... ya know something?

If I get a job and salary again soon?

I'm getting that kit and have Stan do the 9 ....... just for $#%@ and giggles.

But, my dumb question to Mr. Ross stands - what does the B in the RCN numbers stand for

I know very little about the RCN numbering system and my references don't say much about it. The RCN system appears to somewhat follow the RN system of Alpha-Numeric pennant numbers. V was initially used on motor torpedo boats. PT3 & 4 were initially numbered V262 & V263, but were renumbered B119 & B120 Their RCAF numbers were M413 & M414 but they may also have carried the RCN numbers when they began serving with the RCAF. PT5, 6', and 7 were numbered B117M407, B123/M447, and B118/M408. PT9 was unique in being numbered S09.

and what color would the 7,8,9, 3 boats be in RCN service?

8 was not transferred to the RCN. The other boats appear in a number of schemes in the photos I have, but I do not know what the colors were.

In regard to the 9? Could you use the AIRFIX RAF ASRL kit to model her?

Same response as I gave for the conversion to MGB61 - 7 scale feet too short, 3 scale feet too narrow, wrong superstructure; requires major surgery to be even remotely accurate.

Al Ross

Posted By: TGConnelly | Posted on: Nov 15, 2012 - 6:54am
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