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ť Topic: Sea Bags and Deck Clocks
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To All:

1- What was the procedure for stowage of sea bags aboard the PT's? If a man went into sick bay aboard a tender or to a field hospital, did the sea bag go with him?

2- Was there any type of deck clock mounted to the PT or were just the small chronometers as supplied to the quartermasters for navigation used?

I have a deck clock that was mounted in the MTBSTC firehouse but I'm not sure if it came from a PT or was "requisitioned" from some other source. I also have a PT first aid kit that was carried on one of the MTBSTC FD pumpers, so I am aware that certain items found their way into the fire dept at the training center, probably by way of "midnight" requisitions.

Your thoughts or best guess?

Allan

Posted By: Allan | Posted on: Feb 12, 2012 - 6:49pm
Total Posts: 161 | Joined: Sep 18, 2007 - 7:07pm

Allan, my guess is that if he was transferred to a field hospital or hospital ship, it was propbably for a long(er) time so he would probably take everything with him. Not knowing how long the recovery would be or if he would be sent back from whence he came.

As far as a sickbay on a tender, they weren't designed for long term care, only a couple of days, so probably wouldn't take everything if that was the case.

Of course it was all dependant on the specific case.

As far as the fire department at MTBSTC, as you know, the fire house was not an authorized structure (i.e., not on the organizational list) so everything they got was "borrowed" from somewhere...even the wood and metal to build it.

Charlie

Posted By: 29navy | Posted on: Feb 13, 2012 - 9:32am
Total Posts: 600 | Joined: Dec 28, 2006 - 3:02pm

Allan, my guess is that if he was transferred to a field hospital or hospital ship, it was propbably for a long(er) time so he would probably take everything with him. Not knowing how long the recovery would be or if he would be sent back from whence he came.

As far as a sickbay on a tender, they weren't designed for long term care, only a couple of days, so probably wouldn't take everything if that was the case.

Of course it was all dependant on the specific case.

As far as the fire department at MTBSTC, as you know, the fire house was not an authorized structure (i.e., not on the organizational list) so everything they got was "borrowed" from somewhere...even the wood and metal to build it.

Charlie

Posted By: 29navy | Posted on: Feb 13, 2012 - 9:33am
Total Posts: 600 | Joined: Dec 28, 2006 - 3:02pm

Charlie:

Thanks for your thoughts and I quite agree. Do you know if PT's had deck clocks mounted somewhere? If so, what type or size were they?

Allan

Posted By: Allan | Posted on: Feb 14, 2012 - 7:17pm
Total Posts: 161 | Joined: Sep 18, 2007 - 7:07pm

My initial thoughts are probably not because of all the bouncing and punding they take (and give) while zipping across the waves. Clocks don't usually like that kind of treatment. But that is based on my opinion. I'll look through my pictures and see if I can find a clock anywhere.

Charlie

Posted By: 29navy | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 4:43am
Total Posts: 600 | Joined: Dec 28, 2006 - 3:02pm

Allan,
Check out the photo on Jerry Gilmartins response in a previous thread.
[url]http://www.ptboats.org/cgi-local/sitenetbbs/netboardr.cgi?fid=102&cid=101&tid=1170&sc=20&pg=1&x=0[/url]
Gary

Posted By: Gary Paulsen | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 5:07am
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Allen

As I wrote to you, I have two of them that came from PT BOATS. The ones I have I know came from the helm area of the boats. The photo just provided will certainly show proof positive that they were used.

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 5:35am
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What about a Higgins?

Bob

Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 5:52am
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Bob

One of the ones I have, came from PT-213 a HIGGINS PT BOAT. It was given to me by Lt. Victor Kodis, who served on the boat, nicknamed "SPITTEN KITTEN".

Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 6:46am
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Where did it hang? I would think in the charthouse somewhere or over the C.O.s desk, but have seen no photos.

Bob

Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 5:33pm
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Allan,
As far as the seabag, I would think it would be on the boat with all of thier worldly belongings. If they had to leave for medical or any reason it would go with him. I know that on the 305 there is not much personal storage, especially for the enlisted, but I would bet that even Jr officers had only a seabag. They had the advantage of a hanging locker. They probably washed all of thier clothes in salt water, so many pictures show them drying on lines over the deck.

Bob

Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 5:45pm
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Thanks to all for your input. Very helpful in each instance. Allan

Posted By: Allan | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 7:33pm
Total Posts: 161 | Joined: Sep 18, 2007 - 7:07pm

Allan
Charlie and Bob are correct. Even in todays boats and ships it is the same, minimal gear and stow it where you can.
Take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 7:45pm
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am

Allan
Charlie and Bob are correct. Even in todays boats and ships it is the same, minimal gear and stow it where you can.
Take care,
TED

Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Feb 15, 2012 - 7:46pm
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