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Need deck hatch drawings for Higgins
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Looking for deck hatch and coaming (sp?) drawings for Higgins. I would imagine that most all of the series would be the same. We dont have this drawing and it is not in the Louisiana digital library. If not drawings, then any detailed photos would help. Thanks in advance.
Bob
Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Oct 26, 2011 - 2:57pm
Total Posts: 181 | Joined: Jun 8, 2010 - 6:21pm
Hi Bob,
We replaced our deck on PT658 last winter. during the replacement we had to expose the structure of the hatch coaming for the engine removal hatch. I am attaching some photos of that here. If you want I could take measured photos of our hatch tommorrow when I to work on the boat. Jerry
Deck removed shows deck beams
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/firstaftdeckins.jpg[/image]
Good view of the structure
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/Deckremove04.jpg[/image]
With new deck installed
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/Deck031.jpg[/image]
Fiberglassing
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DB49715_1000023.jpg[/image]
More glassing
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DB49715_1000021.jpg[/image]
In progress
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DB49715_1000004.jpg[/image]
Side view
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DB49715_1000003.jpg[/image]
Deck Framing on stern
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/PT658sterndeckbeamsshownewpaint.jpg[/image]
More aft deck framing
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/PT658sterndeckbeamspainted.jpg[/image]
Detail of corner framing of hatch
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DA26556_1000026.jpg[/image]
Adding deck to top of frames
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DA26556_1000023.jpg[/image]
Adding more deck to frames
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DA26556_1000022.jpg[/image]
Adding deck just outboard of hatch coaming
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DA26556_1000018.jpg[/image]
Bob, I hope these are helpful. Could you show us some up to date photos of the PT305? Jerry
Jerry Gilmartin
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Oct 26, 2011 - 10:08pm
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm
Simply amazing work. What a wonderful example of dedicated and hard working group of people. This is no small undertaking, which takes people with a true love of the project they are working on. Thanks once again Jerry for providing great photo's.
Posted By: Frank J Andruss Sr | Posted on: Oct 27, 2011 - 1:41am
Total Posts: 3497 | Joined: Oct 9, 2006 - 6:09am
Jerry, We have the engineroom coaming, We need info for the smaller 25 1/4" hatches. Did you have any original ones?
Bob
Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Oct 27, 2011 - 5:28am
Total Posts: 181 | Joined: Jun 8, 2010 - 6:21pm
Hi Bob,
OK I see what you are talking about. Actually, no I obtained them from a 63 ft Crash Boat. We also had trouble finding originals. Here are photos of us repaining the crash boat escape hatches. Jerry
Tom Painting the escape hatch
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DA26556_1000036.jpg[/image]
Bubba finishes painting of PT658 escpae hatches
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Jerry%20Gilmartin/K7A4314DA26556_1000037.jpg[/image]
Jerry Gilmartin
Posted By: Jerry Gilmartin | Posted on: Oct 27, 2011 - 11:06am
Total Posts: 1472 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 11:16pm
Bob, did you see this escape hatch drawing at the LA site? It's smaller than what you're looking for but I thought some of the details might be useful:
[url]http://louisdl.louislibraries.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=%2FHIC&CISOPTR=53&DMSCALE=25.00000&DMWIDTH=2000&DMHEIGHT=2000&DMMODE=viewer&DMFULL=0&DMOLDSCALE=0.61652&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%2520hatch&DMTHUMB=1&REC=1&DMROTATE=0&x=27&y=24[/url]
Posted By: Jeff D | Posted on: Oct 27, 2011 - 12:01pm
Total Posts: 2200 | Joined: Dec 21, 2006 - 1:30am
Sorry guys, I must have explained wrong. Talking about the 5 square deck hatches, forepeak, forecastle (crews quarters), wardroom, etc. We know the exact locations and the opening size, just need coaming and hatch detail.
Bob
Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Oct 27, 2011 - 2:56pm
Total Posts: 181 | Joined: Jun 8, 2010 - 6:21pm
These shots are of PT308's hatches. I think Ted sent these to me about 20 years ago.
[IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/highatch_0001.jpg[/IMaGe]
Lazarette
[IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/highatch_0002.jpg[/IMaGe]
[IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/highatch_0003.jpg[/IMaGe]
crew's quarters
[IMaGe]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/alross2/highatch_0004.jpg[/IMaGe]
Al Ross
Posted By: alross2 | Posted on: Oct 27, 2011 - 3:55pm
Total Posts: 993 | Joined: Oct 30, 2006 - 8:19pm
Al, thats it!!! Thanks. Of course if anyone has a drawing that would be even better.
Bob
Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Oct 27, 2011 - 5:16pm
Total Posts: 181 | Joined: Jun 8, 2010 - 6:21pm
Bob . . .
I looked everywhere, the UNO Digital Library, my DVD, my hard copies of blueprints. Below is a mix bag of stuff. Sorry however could not find any real details, but a couple should be very useful along with Al's photos.
All the best,
Dick . . .
[B][RED]THESE WERE FROM UNO DIGITAL LIBRARY:[/RED][/B]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/Forecastle-01.jpg[/image]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/HALF-DECK-01.jpg[/image]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/WARDROOM-01.jpg[/image]
[B][RED]THESE PHOTOS BELOW - PLEASE EXCUSE THE QUALITY I HAD TO SHOOT THEM WITH MY DIGITAL CAMERS THEY WERE ALL TO BIG TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH:[/RED][/B]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/Ward-Room-Hatch-01.jpg[/image]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/Ward-Room-02.jpg[/image]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/CREW-Hatch.jpg[/image]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/Aft-Crew-Hatch.jpg[/image]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/Webmaster/Aft-Crew-Hatch-02.jpg[/image]
Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Oct 28, 2011 - 11:51am
Total Posts: 1417 | Joined: Aug 27, 2006 - 6:36pm
Al, the first two of your pics appear to be access to the aft stowage compartment. The first has a watertight door directly in front of the hatch, the only place on the boat. The second has the fuel compartment vent outlet showing as well as the deck cut for aft gas tank hatch, there are no other hatches with vents that close. The second is obviously from the 308 based on the deck and other pictures, do you know what boat the first is from?
Dick, thanks for the drawings, what boats are the 1st and 3rd drawings from?
By the way everyone, thanks so much for the info. We are trying to be as authentic as possible and every bit of information is a great help.
Bob
Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Oct 28, 2011 - 1:53pm
Total Posts: 181 | Joined: Jun 8, 2010 - 6:21pm
Bob . . .
#1 - "Construction in Forcastle" - PT 71 - PT 94 (2-11-1942)
[url] http://louisdl.louislibraries.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/HIC&CISOPTR=355&CISOBOX=1&REC=1[/url]
#2 - "Wardroom, Crew's Lavatory & Galley" PT 625 (6-14-1944)
[url]http://louisdl.louislibraries.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=%2FHIC&CISOPTR=221&DMSCALE=3.125&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMMODE=viewer&DMFULL=0&DMX=46&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&DMTHUMB=1&REC=12&DMROTATE=0&x=301&y=82[/url]
All other image sam as #1 (PT 71 - PT 94)
Dick . . .
Posted By: Dick | Posted on: Oct 28, 2011 - 3:03pm
Total Posts: 1417 | Joined: Aug 27, 2006 - 6:36pm
Bob;
Yes those are my photos I took in 1988 and they are from PT 308. The first photo you ask about I believe is also 308, the rear deck area was rotted more than the rest, I seem to remember Mr. Timmons layed down some plywood so people could move around a little safer. Actually I think he did it more for himself, the real deck rot started after this hatch and before the 40mm mount location all the way to the stern.
Contact me off line please.
Take care,
TED
Posted By: TED WALTHER | Posted on: Oct 28, 2011 - 3:24pm
Total Posts: 3059 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am
Thanks everyone for the input. I have to work (for money) tommorrow, but I am going to stop by the boat. Will take some pictures, not to good at the computer stuff, will upload some pics as time (patience) allows. Working on the aft stowage compartment hatch coaming, wanted to get it right. Thanks again
Bob
Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Oct 28, 2011 - 5:54pm
Total Posts: 181 | Joined: Jun 8, 2010 - 6:21pm
Found them
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/PT%20305/100MEDIA_IMAG0930.jpg[/image]
[image]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p249/ptboats/PT%20305/100MEDIA_IMAG0929-1.jpg[/image]
Bob
Posted By: Bob | Posted on: Feb 5, 2012 - 12:50pm
Total Posts: 181 | Joined: Jun 8, 2010 - 6:21pm