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 Author  Topic: Elco 80' model 1/48 scale
TGarth Connelly

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message   Posted on: Dec 15, 2007 - 1:55pm
Frank,

You have a Rosencrantz built model?

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Hi Frank,
I enjoyed looking at your model by Don Rosencrantz of Elco. I remember seeing a similar model also in 1/48 scale made by Comet Metal Product. I
read that there were 5 such models commissioned by Elco in 1945. My question is why did Elco farmed out the job while Don was working for them?
You notice all these boats were done in detail except the turrets. There
were no fire limit railings for one thing and the machine guns are kind of
amateurishly made. Any light you can shed on this will be greatly
appreciated.
Victor

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Frank J Andruss Sr   Send Email To Frank J Andruss Sr Posted on: Jan 15, 2009 - 12:03am
The most amazing thing about the models Victor was that they were made using metal (the Rosencrantz ones a least) All he parts are machine turned. For many years, until I got one, I thought they were made from wood. Elco did farm out some of the models, because Rosencrantz could not keep up with the orders. Elco made many to pass out as gifts to dignitaries and others. Rosencrantz did not only do the boats, but he made other models for Elco, including the Thunderbolt sysytem, and cruisers and yachts........


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Hi Frank,
I remember seeing a picture you posted somewhere showing PT 41
model being presented to Lt. John D Bulkeley by Henry Sutphen at
Elco Plant. I cannot find it in the message board. Can you help?
Victor

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Victor

I have that original photo in my Elco Files. I will post it for you as soon as I get a chance.


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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Victor, Here is photo of Lt. John D Bulkeley being presented with a model of PT 41 by Henry Sutphen at the ELCO Plant.

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TGConnelly

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Does anyone know what has happened to that PT-41 model in that photo? Is that guy Rosencrantz?


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Hi Garth,
I read a book written about Bulkeleys wife Alice by their oldest daughter Joan B Stade, called "Twelve Handkerchiefs" and in that book is a photo of the model boat in their House. I am pretty sure that the Bulkeley Family still owns the model. Jerry PT 658

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Garth

The model is still owned by the family according to Peter Bulkeley, the Admirals son. No one in the photo is Mr. Rosencrantz. The man with the white hair is Henry R. Sutphen, Executive Vice President of Elco. Someone sent me a picture last year of the boat in his house and darn if I can find it.


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TGConnelly

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Frank/Jerry,

Really? WOW!

But .... if they still have that one, then why did Peter have Charlie Jones build them four PT-41 models back in '95?

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