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Browndog

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I know you guys don't like them but I think it would make an interesting model .what colors were the stripes.I still haven't decided what boat to do my higgens,
which boats were zebra stripe?


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Tracy White

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There was nothing on Adaptor in the Bureau of Ships PT camouflage folders at NARA II when I scanned them about 18 months ago, but there have been a few memos in the destroyer files on the system. A color design sheet for the pattern on a DD-692 Sumner class was included, and no deck pattern was shown.

This scheme was also painted on the French cruiser Gloire in 1944, so one thing that perhaps could be done as a side-quest to confirm an answer, would be to ask or find out if she had a deck pattern at this time.

I would agree with Al that 20-B Deck Blue is the most likely.

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  Jerry Gilmartin

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Hey Browndog,
I posted photos of the following Higgins (not Higgens) 78 foot PT Boats onto the NAVSOURCE website showing them with zebra camo patterns. PT206, PT207, PT208 (all of RON15) and then PT306 of RON22. All of these boats were in the Med at the time, I think specifically at Bizerte, and then later in Italy/Sardinia. In fact the PT207 actually went by the name of "Zebra" for some time. Here is a link to NAVSOURCE http://www.navsource.org Go to Patrol Vessels , then PT Boats, then find your boat number to see the photos.

Jerry Gilmartin
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Portland OR

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Browndog

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Thanks Jerry
It looks like the decks were solid, also interesting the deckhouses and gun tubs were all different patterns


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Dick

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Dick   Send Email To Dick Posted on: Mar 5, 2014 - 9:42am
I've posted the Zebra (Adaptor Scheme) video on my YouTube page and have linked it here below as well as two screen captures below the video:














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  TED WALTHER

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Nice Dick, where did you ever find that film??
The boat is PT 139(notice the 77' Elco smoke screen set up), the one used for the scheme prototype. Frank Johnson's book has two photos of this boat on Pg 80(lower) and pg 81 (upper).
Thanks for sharing.
Take care,
TED


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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Dick   Send Email To Dick Posted on: Mar 7, 2014 - 2:07pm

Ted . . .

I believe its an outtake from the 1985 four hour VHS tape HQ sold way back in the 80's and 90's - long sold out.

If memory serves me, Victor Chun borrowed all the PT boat related film reels Boats Newberry had gotten from the national archives early on. Once received, Vic projected them and recorded them onto his VCR in VHS format. Boat's then had Vic's tapes duped off and sold them in the HQ's Ship Store until the supply had been exhausted.

Then around ten years ago, I took my old copies (25 years old then and quality fading fast) of the VHS tapes I purchased in 1990 and converted them to digital. I was going to have them converted for me, but at the time (ten years ago) the price was outrageous. I was able to jury-rig a cable form my VHS tape player and my Mac and capture the video to my computer. SInce then I have posted bits and pieces to the message board over the last eight years. Mainly the RON 9, Hudson River, and the Zebra footage once before this last post.

I plan, as and when time allows, to post the rest of the video captures, around 8-hours of miscellaneous footage, and varying quality, and I mean VARYING quality. The quality swings wildly mainly due to the technology available back 30 years ago when Vic first started the project, the ever aging (magnetic recording loss) VHS process, the quality of the original archived film reels and then the further adventures of my tape conversion to digital - that is a lot of abuse!

What is shown on the posted Zebra file is all that exists of the Zebra, not withstanding what might be buried in the National Archives.

Dick . . .




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