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Drew Cook
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Posted on: Dec 20, 2012 - 6:19pm
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I'm a little confused here...
The 61 is...clearly gray in the Prescott color photos. No doubt about that.
Don't know why there's even a question about it..?
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TED WALTHER
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 Posted on: Dec 20, 2012 - 7:14pm
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Frank;
The drawings I speak of, were given to me by Wayne. I suggest, you contact him as to the color of PT 61, as I have always suspected Ken's color concoction was really with PT 61. He went to the Army quatermasters on Guadalcanal, well this is a time spot as the Army came in way after the Marines. So, because of the photos, at Searlesville: May 1943. Ken was Exec in these photos, Joe Kernal was the Skipper. When Ken took over PT 61, they went for a quick "re-fit" at Tulagi, then moved back up. This is where the "NEW" paint job took place.
I believe, the color Wayne painted his PT 48 model, is what was actually painted on PT 61. I am sure by now Wayne will concur. I suggest you ask him about the mixture, as his boat is dead on!
Take care,
TED
P.S. As reference, Al has a photo of PT 48 at Bau Island, Rendova in his book, which I date as Sept- Dec 1943. One can clearly see, she is painted Navy Green, with launch racks, MK 13 torpedoes, a 37mm on bow, There was also a 20mm on stern and SO-A Radar.
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Wayne Traxel
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Posted on: Dec 20, 2012 - 11:31pm
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The 1/24th scale plans that Frank and Ted have are indeed those of PT-61 that I drew in 1994. The drawing was based on the recollections of Ken Prescott and his Kodachrome color slides that Ken so graciously loaned me back in 1984 when I was building my PT 48 model. At the time Ken provided the paint formula of 4 parts grey, 1 part white and 1 part Dark Blue as the color of PT-61. He went on to say that after assuming command of PT-48, he used the same formula for 61 to paint the 48. This is how my model of 48 came to be the color it ended up. In 1984 Pactra Military Colors of four parts grey, 1 part white and 1 part Navy blue were mixed and applied to the model. After painting the model it looked like just another grey boat in the shop lighting. However when moving the boat into the summer sun, blue sky and green shrubbery the boat appeared the same color as the PT-61 Kodachrome slides.
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: Dec 21, 2012 - 1:37am
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Thanks Wayne and Ted. Wayne, I don't think I have ever seen a photo of your boat. Can you post here, or send it to me via my E-Mail.
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Wayne Traxel
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Posted on: Dec 21, 2012 - 9:31am
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Color RC PT- 48 model August 1984. Paint Formula as per Ken Prescott PT-61, 4 parts grey, 1part white and 1 part dark blue First Picture is what the 48 model color appeared in my shop and in sunlight on the drive way.
The operating photos show the boat different color shades based on sunlight, overcast conditions and shubbery reflected on the boat while operating on the pond. There is probably some fading too from these 28 year old photos.
When building PT-48 model Ken mentioned using the PT-61 paint formula on his new command PT-48.
Hope this helps
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: Dec 21, 2012 - 10:20am
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You know Wayne, you would make things much easier if you just sent me the boat, lol.... Looks green in the sunlight, but I think you said Gray indoors. Did PT-61 have the smoke generator Wayne.
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: Dec 21, 2012 - 10:20am
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You know Wayne, you would make things much easier if you just sent me the boat, lol.... Looks green in the sunlight, but I think you said Gray indoors. Did PT-61 have the smoke generator Wayne.
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: Dec 23, 2012 - 12:20pm
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Wayne the boat looks wonderful in the water, a fine job. Although i was going to keep this to myself, I have decided to have Stan do the boat as PT-61, in honor of Ken Prescott. I just feel that PT-66 is a difficult thing to paint when you are not sure of the colors, and did not want to guess. Thanks Wayne for all of the information. I need a drawing for the NAVY type smoke generator that PT-61 had, so I can have Stan scratch it out if anyone has one.
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: Dec 23, 2012 - 12:20pm
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Wayne the boat looks wonderful in the water, a fine job. Although i was going to keep this to myself, I have decided to have Stan do the boat as PT-61, in honor of Ken Prescott. I just feel that PT-66 is a difficult thing to paint when you are not sure of the colors, and did not want to guess. Thanks Wayne for all of the information. I need a drawing for the NAVY type smoke generator that PT-61 had, so I can have Stan scratch it out if anyone has one.
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Posted on: Dec 23, 2012 - 1:33pm
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Hi Frank,
I went to the HNSA website and found the Smoke and Chemical Munitions handbook and found these photos. Maybe you can use them? Jerry
http://www.hnsa.org/doc/smoke/index.htm
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