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 Author  Topic: Armor Plate Detail
Dick

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Dick   Send Email To Dick Posted on: Nov 20, 2012 - 8:42am

Jeff . . .

Do you think it could be an empty hole for the searchlight bracket? The top furthest forward of the three attachment points?

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That's what I've always assumed it was...


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Jeff D

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It could be a searchlight bracket mounting hole but it seems way too big. The bracket drawing shows it was held on with 1/4-20 machine screws... I dunno.



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David Waples

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I was thinking about that bracket hole again today and wondering if it is empty. It sure look like there's no screw there. I've always assumed the search light mount was removed based on this empty hole. Thoughts?
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Jeff D

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It might be the searchlight bracket mounting hole, what looks like a large hole could be the countersink for the mounting screw. I tried matching the camera angle with limited success, and made the screw head black for visibility. Also on the image is a blowup of the holes:



I wouldn't bet my firstborn on it but it is a good possibility.



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David Waples

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Interesting! It does confirm my thought that the mount was out of the picture. Thanks for doing that Jeff. You got me thinking I need to not only include it on the Italeri build but go back and install it on my 1/72 effort.
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Jeff D

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Nov 26, 2012 - 4:39am
You're welcome David. Do you mean add the holes or the bracket? The hole looks empty to me, a painted over flat head screw would blend in with the plate and be hard to see in the image. Although that's not proof that the bracket was removed. As a guess, I'd say the bracket was gone.



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David Waples

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I was thinking about the horn shaped mount. The image of a possible screw head is causing me to think the hole might not be empty. Your drawing shows that the mount would be outside the field of vision too. But it looks deep into the armor plate so I'm not sure.
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Dick

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Dick   Send Email To Dick Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 - 11:56am

Jeff . . .

Nice overlaying and view manipulation, darn near nuts-on. The Armor detail ( ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00517.pdf ) states 9/32" bore with countersink on reverse side (the side we can see). It doesn't specify the countersink, either 80 or 100 degree for screw head. There appears to be no screw, simply a hole to my tired old eyes.

Please see my attempt to create similar images to Jeff's.

Dick . . .








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  Jerry Gilmartin

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OH MY GAWD!
IMHO Guys this whole discussion is getting to be a little over the top. Seriously fixating on a screw hole??? Wow, I thought there were other PT boats in the US Navy besides PT-109. I guess from following this thread one would never know. I know you want to be as accurate as you can be in building your latest new PT109 model, but c'mon guys this is taking things just a little off the deep end! What I really want to know is what exact shade of GREEN the screw was painted? Now there is the mystery of the century!

Hah Hah (Poke Poke)

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