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 Author  Topic: PT-109 Deck Log
  Jerry Gilmartin

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jerry Gilmartin   Send Email To Jerry Gilmartin Posted on: Nov 20, 2012 - 8:58pm
Jonathan,
I went to NARA2 last year and had access to quite a few PT Boat deck logs. Why wouldnt they allow access to the existing Deck logs for PT109? It would be treated just the same as all the other PT Boat deck logs. Here are a few pics of some of the deck logs I looked at. So what I am trying to demonstrate here is that the PT109 Deck Logs would be no different in their availability to a qualified researcher with access to all of these other ones. That is why NARA is such a fantastic resource! Jerry


PT308 Collision Deck log



PT27 Logbook showing archival box it was kept in along with logs from PT24 and PT28


PT27 deck log with names of crew



PT27 logbook with John Akin listed as top gunner



PT305 logbook with crew names



PT235 with Alvin Hansen Transferred date





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David Waples

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So how do we go about doing some researh? This would be awesome to share.
Dave

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Bruce Marshall, who lives not far from the National Archives might be the one to do this. He has looked up several things for me in the past. I would be happy to ask him, providing he has the time.


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Jonathan Eno

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Jerry,
I stand humbled and corrected. I have been doing a project , some of it thru NARA, and the answer to every request I've made regarding logs has been that they are not open to the public.
I don't know why I've received that response, but it has slowed my project considerably.
It is fantastic to see that they,deck logs, are accessable.
Jonathan


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David Waples

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of David Waples  Posted on: Nov 21, 2012 - 5:56am
Which NARA location is this and are all the PT deck logs located there?
Dave

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Very cool, and an answer to the torpedo / depth charge incident. We were just discussing that. I hope someone can access, scan, and post them. That would be good for at least a +10 to their board Shares rating.

I read 5 words in the PT 235 page Jerry posted and an immediate picture formed in my mind: "visibility zero bad rain squall". It must have been a rough moment.



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29navy

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Well, I've pulled the 109 logs so thery are there and available. They (and and the other logs) are at the Archives in College Park, MD. and are available to anyone.

I don't remember why I looked at the 109 logs books (it's been a couple of years), but the log books are notorious for what they don't include. Next time I go to the Archives, I can pull them and see what they say.

If my memory is correct, one thing I noticed was that the logs were all singed by (I believe) Al Cluster instead of the CO or XO of the boats.





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Drew Cook

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Can one of our PT veterans -- or someone else who knows for sure -- advise us of the procedure for keeping PT deck logs?

Were they kept onshore (in the Ron or Flotilla HQ, for instance) or on the boats themselves?

If I had to guess (and that's all it is -- a guess), since the PTs were shore-based patrol craft, and did not spend long periods of time at sea like a capital ship, the logs may have been keep on the beach.

That would explain the existence of deck logs from boats that were lost in combat, like the 109.

Anyone?


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29navy

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Each PT boat log book usually covers two months of time. After that, they would have been turned into the Squadron who would have sent them, through some established process and chain of command, back to the Navy Department in Washington DC.

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Why would Kennedy not have filled out a deck log for the incident. I would think the Commanding Officer would have needed a full account of the events leading up to the collision, and might have handed Kennedy a deck log to fill in the blanks so to speak. Do we know if anything is on file ( in Kennedy's own hand writing) of the events, and if so, where would it be.


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