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Jeff D

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Thanks Wayne and Ted. I have a great deal of respect for the people in the movie industry that can make the models look real enough to make you wonder. That's beyond my skills... but at least I can get it close enough for government work.



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Jeff - The assembly of the drawings is excellent. Soon I imagine we'll be able to virtually move through the boat as if we were on it! Although that may be a way off, is that even possible?

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Jeff D

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Thanks Bridge. I don't know about a virtual PT boat unless it would be a low resolution type as found in video games. Even that would be cool but again, beyond my skill.

I've always liked this site, which lets you move around a bit: http://www.pacificwarmuseum.org/virtualtours/ptboat/tourfiles/flash/index_fs.html



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Jeff really nice, but where do you get all that information to make the drawings. That's also for Dick. Where do you guys get that much information to make detailed 3-D models and three dimensional cutway drawings. Its beyound me. Great Job!
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Dick

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Jeff . . .

STUNNING !

Dick . . .


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Jeff D

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Thanks Sheldon. I have Dick to thank for that as well as Al Ross. They made available the DVD of Elco 80' drawings. Whatever little stuff wasn't on it I did from photos, like the horns and life ring. One interesting thing is that Federal Electric still makes the Model 56 horn (with some small changes). It's commonly used in sports like basketball and it's probably close to the way the PT boat nav horn sounded.

Here's a link to the DVD of drawings:
http://www.gdinc.com/microDVD-001.html


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Jeff D

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Speak of the devil, thank you very much Dick! That page wouldn't be anywhere near as accurately (I hope) detailed if not for you.



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Sheldon . . .

I sadly don't have Jeff's expert CAD and 3-D Modeling skills - argh, argh, arghhhhhh. I do it the old technical illustrator way with T-square, triangles, ellipse guides and proportional dividers and plot-out each point then connect the dots on large 30" x 40" sheets of drafting vellum. I started my cutaways and interiors back in 1995 without having access or knowledge about the microfilm, I simply bought hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of blueprint copies from HQ. However, the blueprint selection was far less then needed, so like Jeff, I had to count very heavily on photographs from books. The books used were from the likes of Victor's, Al's, Frank Johnson's and Bob Ferrell's. Those were about the only picture books around back then. Wish I had the resources we have today, the countless new books and including all the great photo postings here on the board. Below is a sample of the my process:


Most all of the plotting points and guide lines are invisible here because they are drawn in a light blue pencil know as "non-repro blue". Most of the line work visible is where I've used a regular lead point pencil and traced over only the blue lines and ploting points I wanted to be visible for furtherer processing.





This is image shows a finished traced line drawing.





The last image is where I've scanned and traced the image in Adobe Illustrator, where I identify planes and added color to those planes.




Dick . . .



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Awesome stuff, Dick. Thanks for sharing the process.

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Hadly

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Dick, Jeff, you guys surely have some talent there. Thanks for all the work you do on pt boats, time and effort and it sounds like money too, is surely evident in your work. Great job you guys.
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