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 Author  Topic: New subjrct for Revell 1/72 PT boat kit
John V

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Thanks David. I noticed the "east coast" pictures had forward torpedo tubes and 4 depth charges per side where the rear torpedo tubes should have been. Did all the boats use balsa floats and dingys?---John


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Will Day

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John: That shade of red on the bottom was called COPPEROID. You can get it pre-mixed in that color for your next project.

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David Waples

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Thanks David. I noticed the "east coast" pictures had forward torpedo tubes and 4 depth charges per side where the rear torpedo tubes should have been. Did all the boats use balsa floats and dingys?---John





That I'm not sure of. One of our experts can probably enlighten us on that. One thing I can tell you from my conversations with Mr. Keresey of PT-105 is that they pretty much put that thing wherever it was out of the way. He mentioned that his spent a lot of time on top of the day cabin. Some just didn't keep them on the boat.

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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John

I am almost certain that the Dingy on PT-107 was not standard issue from Elco when they were completed. Where they picked that up, I am not sure. The balsa Raft was however standard equipment on the 103 class boats early on, and although they were made to carry on the forward part of the bow, they were shifted around. Some were carried on the day room canopy, and some put them on the chart house roof. They did become cumbersome, which is why some Skippers choose to remove them altogether, and replace them with the blow up raft. Again, no two boats were alike, once they got into the War Zone..........................


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Drew Cook

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I'd have thought the reason the tubes on the 103 and 107 are trained out in the Russells-to-Rendova refueling photos is obvious -- to be ready for action, should any Japanese shipping be encountered. Just my two cents.

I'd guess the color of the 105 ("Battleship Grey") to be Dark Grey also.

It looks to me that in the refueling at sea photos, both the 103 and the 107 have the standard-issue PT balsa rafts on their dayroom canopies.

It also looks like you can see the bottom and keel of an additional small skiff on the port side of the 107's dayroom canopy.

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Will Day

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I have also seen the raft resting on the deck and lashed upright to the port side of the dayroom.

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John V

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Thanks for the information. I guess I am going with an early 107, overall dark gray with copperoid red below waterline. I am using a Revell 109 kit so I will use the weapons with the kit, The balsa float will be moved to the day room roof, saddles for it on thefore deck removed and sanded. Also I am not using the life line and stanchions on the fore deck, holes will be filled and sanded. I am moving the search light from the port side deck to the port side area just behind the cockpit as per reference pictures. Mast will be used and rigged. Thanks again for all the help and ideas.---John


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David Waples

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holes will be filled and sanded




Actually you may want to consider leaving the holes in the deck. Actually you may want to fill them but drill smaller holes that are more to scale. The mountings for the stanchions were left in place on these boats even though they were rarely if ever used in theatre. On my 105 boat I inserted the mounts for the stanchions even though I'm not going to model it with the stanchions.
Dave

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John V

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Thanks David, will do as it saves me work! I also found another boo boo that I won't do. I was going through some old posts here and it seems my painting the prop shafts red was a major goof. This time they will be natural metal, a chrome silver is close to stainless steel color. I use to weld stainless steel paper machinery years ago and the abrasive pulp use to almost make the stainless steel look chromed!---JOHN


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  Jerry Gilmartin

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John,
Those propeller shafts were made from MONEL, which is an alloy of stainless steel that is not magnetic and stays pretty shiny, but not as shiny as chrome. Here are 2 photos showing the Monel Propeller shafts on PT658 the last time we had her out of the water on the cradle. Notice the cylindrical zinc sleeves mounted toward the back of each shaft. Also notice the bronze color of the propellers. We cleaned them up with wire wheel and you can see the mottled bronze showing through the oxidation on each blade of the props. I hope these are helpful. Jerry

Looking up from directly below the stern


Screws and shafts from astern



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