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PRJM3

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of PRJM3   Send Email To PRJM3 Posted on: Mar 31, 2010 - 3:47pm
Anchors on foredecks of various RON 27 boats, cropped from larger photos in my father's collection. The general location is to port and aft of the 37 mm mount.

PT 36? - Full number not visible, not the 361.


PT 358 - Nested alongside the Varuna, that may be an anchor - may also be an anchor on the deck of the 359


PT 361 - In several other posed pictures of crewmen at the 37 mm the large coil of rope is visible but it's not clear if it is attached to the anchor. Wooden cleats on the deck to secure the anchor.
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The 361 picture with the link formatted correctly


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  Dick

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Dick   Send Email To Dick Posted on: Mar 31, 2010 - 3:54pm

See Bill . . . .

Posting the image wasn't that hard after all

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Interesting mix of anchors. That on the 359 is a standard Danforth type, but that on the 358 is an old-fashioned kedge anchor.

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Great photos guys.

Bob, what did the natives use the anchors for? A bit big for the typical outrigger...



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Another deck mounted anchor. Sorry but I don't know what boat this is, or what they have on deck in the wrapping:





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It dawned on me that maybe the anchor in the image I posted was set there temporarily to make room for the cargo. I don't see any mounting brackets as would be expected.



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I don't know Jeff. That last photo looks like it's mounted to some sort of bracket. Typically when they're just laying around they're at an angle. But this one is parallel to the deck and there seems to be a rope run through some eyelets to hold it i place.

To me it looks like it's in the way and a damn trip hazard. I can imagine guys trying to get to battle stations or getting across the deck for some reason only to trip over that anchor. I love the story about trading them to the local population.

Until this thread and recent purchase of Doyle's book I hadn't realized that there were purpose built brackets on deck for these anchors. Certainly a detail I need to pay closer attention to.

Thanks!

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Al,

Thanks for the feedback on the anchor types. It seemed to me that there was some variety across those pictures but I don't know enough about them. The anchor on the 361 also has a much 'heavier' look to it than the standard Danforth type.

In sports car racing in the 60's the organizing clubs started enforcing a rule that all cars have a functioning horn. A vast array have bicycle bulb horns started showing up, some in places where the driver couldn't reach them. But the rule had been met. Perhaps an anchor requirement was being enforced, regardless of type or functionality.

I also wondered about them being a deck obstruction, but they do seem to be outside the perimeter occupied by the gunners. Maybe not so much for the loaders. In other pictures of the 361 you can see that the life raft is also mounted on the far port edge of the bow outside the gunners periphery.

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Her are some of the drawings Jeff was speaking about on earlier post. These happen to show both on deck and below deck storage locations for anchors on various ELCO PT's. It appears prior to PT-372 the Anchor were store below deck. Later on, PT-372 and up, store them in either location, with the 75 lb. Danforth probably stored on deck and the 55 lb. stored below deck. Of course these are ELCO's design intension not necessarily what each boat or the boat's skipper decided on.

Typically ELCO shows the 75 lb. stored in the Forepeak, with the 55 lb. stood in the Crew's Head. Later engineering shows the 75 lb. was moved out of the Forepeak to the deck. The 55 lb. on earlier PT's 103-367 stayed in the Head. However I'm sure the location was either determined by the crew or skipper.

Higgins engineering shows anchors, one or two stored on deck on the very forward end of the bow. Later Higgins showed a single large anchor (75# Danforth ???) stored on the starboard side of the bridge wall near the gun turret. However this was sure to be a crew/skipper preference also. Unlike the ELCO Rope Locker Hatch (very small) the Higgins Hatch was much, much larger, and I'm sure the anchor could have been lowered into the Forepeak with the rope/chain.

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