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Nuge210
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 Posted on: Feb 7, 2010 - 11:08am
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Sorry about that.
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Posted on: Apr 11, 2010 - 1:12pm
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Message for Steve Nugent
Hi Steve, I need to contact you about the photo of the PT boat. You said in your previous post it was PT280? But it really looks like it is PT238 to me. One of our veterans here at Save the PT Boat (PT658) in Portland Oregon, named Maury Hooper was a crewman on the PT238. He would like a better picture of his old boat. Can you please look at your picture and let me know if there is a caption on it somewhere? Thanks Jerry
Compare these two pictures they look like the same boat to me!
Here is your picture of "PT280" which I suspect is actually 238
Here is my known photo of PT238
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CJ Willis
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Posted on: Apr 11, 2010 - 2:23pm
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Jerry: The 238 was not in Ron 23. When Ron 19 split up in April 1944 the 238 went into Ron 20.
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Posted on: Apr 11, 2010 - 5:08pm
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Jerry,
I have to admit they do look similar. The main reason that I think the boat is the 280 is that
my fathers good buddy Jack Flachmann ( from St. Louis, MO ) was the Skipper of the 280
in Palawan. I'm guessing summer of 1945.
But I'll look to see if I have another photo that might show the boat number a little clearer.
C.J. is correct that this is definately Ron 23.
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Posted on: Apr 11, 2010 - 6:14pm
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for looking into this for me. I blew up your photo and the hull number really really looks like it says 238. Also when you compare some of the other key feutures, such as the US Flag flying way up high on the radio antenna, the 37mm cannon in the same spot, the camoflage measure 31-20 identical on both photos and the IFF antenna on either side of the mast, they sure look like twin boats! Maury was in RON20 and they were down in Mindoro in 1945. Is it possible your Dad got a picture of the 238? Thanks again for looking. Jerry
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Posted on: Apr 12, 2010 - 6:07pm
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Hey Jerry,
I think I have some different views of the same boat, which I will post when scanned, but I have no notes on any of the photos. And don't know much about my Dads stay in the P.I. This one photo has a couple of the Ron 20 boats in it, as QM said transferred from Ron 19.
Could be the tender 'Willoughby', I'm not sure.
And I tend to agree with you, those two photos you posted look the same.
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Posted on: Apr 12, 2010 - 6:12pm
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I forgot to say that the two boats with visible numbers are, at left, the 237 and the 252 on the right.
One boat looks like it has shields or something, I can't tell.
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Posted on: Apr 12, 2010 - 8:19pm
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Wow Steve, that is awesome! So it is possible that RON20 boats were located in the same vicinity where your Dad was able to take some photos of the 238 boat. Thank you so much for doing all of this "investigation into history". I will print these pictures and give them to Maury this Thursday. I am sure he will be happy. You should have seen the look on his face when I asked him if he had any pictures of his boat. He said his camera had been lost and he never had any pictures of the 238. I am glad that you were able to show us these great photos!@ Thanks again very much!
Jerry
PT658 Portland OR
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Posted on: Apr 14, 2010 - 5:17pm
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Hi Jerry,
Does Mr. Hooper think it's his 238 ? Mindoro and Palawan were not too far away
from each other.
"At Close Quarters' also says Rons 20 & 23 had patrols secured at
Palawan on 28April1945, but Ron 20 boats were not placed out of service until
24Nov1945. I don't know if they moved again or stayed in the same area.
Interesting..........
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