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TGConnelly
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Posted on: May 11, 2009 - 12:49pm
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Frank,
Al LeFleche or Gary Barr (both of IPMS WINGS'N'WHEELS) are Masters at figures ..............
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: May 11, 2009 - 7:20pm
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Garth,
My main nits are as follows:
-- 2"x 8" planks under bow 37mm too large (out of scale).
-- searchlight pole (debatable - I don't think the 109's was up) outboard of port cockpit bulkhead, should be inboard, along joint of bulkhead & rear cockpit armor step.
-- canvas splash shield on port twin-.50 turret missing.
-- forward depth charges/cradles missing.
-- bow light should be removed from bullnose.
-- heating unit should be removed.
-- radio antenna too thin.
-- life ring behind starboard twin-.50 turret should probably be on rear dayroom cabin bulkhead (debatable).
-- molded ledges above dayroom ports should be trimmed way down.
-- A-frame mast is present w/flag -- shouldn't have a mast, and flag should be flown on stern flagstaff.
-- life raft should be removed (debatable).
-- kit windshield should have been left unaltered to represent painted-over plexiglass.
As I said, though, overall the model looks really good and there's lots to like, particularly the water base and the illusion of the boat at speed. The paint job is good, the figures look good (where'd he get that figure with the binoculars? I want one for my Revell 1/72nd 109!), the boat numbers and their positioning are good, the detail on the twin-.50's (opened muzzles, ammo belts) is good, sidelights and side ports on the charthouse are good...
-- Drew
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PeterTareBuilder
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Posted on: May 11, 2009 - 11:36pm
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Ahoy there!
Here is a link to a video on YouTube that shows how to make a 1/72 scale Revell PT-109 boat model look like it is moving at speed iincluding the distinctive "Rooster Tail".
LInk to Part 6 of 6 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVp_ibAi5w
Here are 3 screen captures of the finished diorama:
And here is an image of JFK in the model's cockpit:
Cheers from Peter
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: May 12, 2009 - 4:56am
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Peter Tare Builder,
Thanks for posting the tutorial. The screen capture of the JFK figure should put to rest any doubt about the identity of that particular figure in the Revell PT 109 kit.
I've always known the figure was JFK, as the head sculpt -- short-billed Army/Marine Corps fatigue cap & sunglasses -- is taken straight from the famous JFK-in-the-109-cockpit photos.
Maybe it's my German (traditionally known as skilled figurine sculptors/painters/toymakers) heritage, but I always loved the figures in my model builds and paid a lot of attention to them. I've always thought the Revell PT 109 kit could use about seven or eight more crew figures. If I ever build one again, mine will be fully crewed.
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TGConnelly
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Posted on: May 12, 2009 - 7:00am
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Drew,
I will agree with you on the planks for the 37, ... and there should be more ropes lashing it to the deck, or else it'd go overboard.
The searchlight SHOULD be on the inboard side, yes.
Well, the kit does not include the shield for the turret; he COULD have used tissue soaked in white glue and then, painted to depict that. Alex Johnson used tissue on my 171. But, I don't think Mr. Fraske is a dedicated ship modeler - so he wouldn't know about PTs having that there.
The heater unit - I'll agree also.
The mast? We ALL know my take on that.
The radio attenna is too thin? Looks OK to me ...
The windshield, agree - HOWEVER - he's not a dedicated ship modeler, so I'd cut him slack on that.
Garth
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Garth,
My main nits are as follows:
-- 2"x 8" planks under bow 37mm too large (out of scale).
-- searchlight pole (debatable - I don't think the 109's was up) outboard of port cockpit bulkhead, should be inboard, along joint of bulkhead & rear cockpit armor step.
-- canvas splash shield on port twin-.50 turret missing.
-- bow light should be removed from bullnose.
-- heating unit should be removed.
-- radio antenna too thin.
-- life ring behind starboard twin-.50 turret should probably be on rear dayroom cabin bulkhead (debatable).
-- molded ledges above dayroom ports should be trimmed way down.
-- A-frame mast is present w/flag -- shouldn't have a mast, and flag should be flown on stern flagstaff.
-- life raft should be removed (debatable).
-- kit windshield should have been left unaltered to represent painted-over plexiglass.
As I said, though, overall the model looks really good and there's lots to like, particularly the water base and the illusion of the boat at speed. The paint job is good, the figures look good (where'd he get that figure with the binoculars? I want one for my Revell 1/72nd 109!), the boat numbers and their positioning are good, the detail on the twin-.50's (opened muzzles, ammo belts) is good, sidelights and side ports on the charthouse are good...
-- Drew
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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 Posted on: May 12, 2009 - 11:38am
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Come on guys, I did not post the picture so that you could find all these things wrong with it. If you want to contact me off-line about it, then fine. If I feel I want to make any changes to the boat, then I will have it done.
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Will Day
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Posted on: May 12, 2009 - 12:27pm
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I always thought the guy in the cockpit with the funny hat sort of looked like you, Frank.....
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: May 12, 2009 - 3:02pm
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I wish it was me Will. Then I could have been on a boat and told you guys all about it..............
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Posted on: May 12, 2009 - 3:23pm
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Frank;
Don't feel bad, speaking for myself as a modeler, I am always looking at ways to make things more realistic, for instance, the most amazing modeler I have ever seen is a guy in Brazil, who makes everything from original blueprints! He makes auto and plane models just like the originals all out of aluminum, rivets, etc. The only thing that differs from the originals, is they don't actually start. True modelers who have the drive and eye for details are a rare breed, we have BIG egos so we strive for perfection, simply because if we are going to spend our time perfecting something, we shoot for the best, but we can always find fault with ourselves as per our models and those made by others.
Take care,
TED
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: May 12, 2009 - 4:14pm
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Frank,
I'm a little surprised at your (seeming) sensitivity on critiques -- primarily mine -- of the model. As I stated in my initial post, I thought the model looked nice, but had a few "nits" (dictionary definition: "minute...criticisms") to pick with it.
Garth merely asked me what my "nits" were, and I replied with a list, based on my study of PT 109 for almost fifty years now. I ended the critique list with another compliment on how good the model looked overall. It is a nice-looking model, and I'd love to have it on one of my shelves, but...
As I've stated several times on this message board over the years, I've yet to see what I think is a completely accurate model of the 109 under JFK, this one included.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend.
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