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  David Buck

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On page 114 of Victor Chuns book American PT Boats in World War 11 there is a photo of a Manufacturer's name plate for the PT 59.

Would anyone Know if these name plates were fitted to the 80ft. Elco Boats as well as the 77ft. Elco and if they were still fitted to the same location below decks.

Yours Dave.

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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Dave

Speaking for the Elco Boats, the earlier Manuafacturing Plates were a metal material. The earlier ones were fitted on the 70, 77 Footers. I beleive ( I might be wrong here ) Elco switched over to a heavy plastic material, probably bakelight, when the 80 footers were produced. Most of these plates were affixed to the chart house cabin, inside, facing forward. I am not sure about Higgins, or Huckins boats, but I am pretty sure they were attached inside the chart-house............


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  David Buck

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Thanks Frank, i will go through what photos i have of the 80ft Elco charthouse and try to spot it.

Just a small point but one to ponder if it remained in the area of a Boats sinking would salt water affect the type of "bakerlite" used?

I have a friend who has a private WW11 museum and has a number of items made of both plastic and bakerlite from that time some show better resiliance to long term exposure than others, He has no idea about the type used on the PT Boats.

Thanks again Frank,

Yours D.B.

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29navy

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The Higgins Boats did have the name plate. I'll dig through my pictures and find one that shows it.



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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Certainly, exposure to the warm salt water of the pacific would tend to corode everything. Bakelight was a pretty strong material, so I would have to say it would last much longer then anything made of metal or wood. It would be such a thrill to dive on the wreck of a PT BOAT ( Let me clarify that, and say try to find a wreck ) and find a plate. I would think that would be next to impossible, as the chart house would be gone in time, and anything attached to the chart house would have sunk or floated away. The majority of plates we see today, were removed by the crew or Skipper and brought home. That is one thing that has elluded me for years. I have come close to obtaining a couple for my Exhibit over the years, but nothing yet. I have been promised one from PT 532, but the man who has it has not come thru in 8 years. So, the hunt continues........


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Here's the name plate for PT 486. This is at the Museum in Fall River.


Here is one that shows PT 199's plate:



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  David Buck

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Hi, Guys, Thanks for the info and photos, i have a short list of Boats that with a little luck and a little time could all be visited by someone keen to search for them as not many have been found.

But of course once you find something you have to id. it, this may be easier with a 77ft. boat than any other, if you know what you are looking for.

Frank interesting point you raise, needing one of these for your exhibit lets see if one shows up given a little more time.

Thanks again,

Yours D.B.

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