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Topic: Revell 1/96th scale Higgins PT boat model reissued |
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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 Posted on: May 22, 2008 - 7:07am
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To be honest, if I had the talent to build models like some of you do, I would not bother to buy a Kit that was so innacurate. I would buy the plans and build one to my own satisfaction. It's like the Lindberg kit that came out many moons ago. I am sure many bought the kit and built it, but it was such a total disaster that trying to do anything with it was tough. Garth Connelly had one that was redone by my friend Stan Pienkowski, and it was decent, but with all the work that goes into trying to make them right, you might as well spend the money on a scratch built job. This of course is aimed at those of you who have the talent to do them. You would think by now that those Companies building these models, would get things right by having someone like Al Ross share his knowledge and once and for all mae a Kit that is correct. I still think the ITALERI KIT is one of the best plastic models to come down the road in a long time.............
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FRANK
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Posted on: May 22, 2008 - 2:54pm
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I hear some scuttlebutt about Italeri coming out with a early 109 version. Man I sure hope so! And yeah Frank A., I have to agree with you about the kit manufactures out there. Research is the key but it's so often overlooked for the sake of a cheaper casting. The creation of a mold is costly as all get go, so cutting corners here is saving money I guess.
Yeah, I built 3 versions of the Lindberg 1/32 scale kit. Most of the fittings I tossed out-garbage! I went with H&R fittings and those were half decent and needed a lot of work as well. My 169 took me about a year! The hardest job was zebra stripes. Sorry Frank- I just happen to love those stripes!!
Frank Ryczek, Jr.
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: May 23, 2008 - 3:19pm
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I visited my local high-end hobby shop this morning and had a long talk with one of the owners. He said Italeri is going to make an entire set of crew figures for their 1/35th scale PT 596.
He also said he thought the possibilities of Italeri coming out with an early-war PT 103-class 80' Elco was good, since the PT 596 kit is apparently a hit, even at the high retail price...
Hope he's right.
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David Waples
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Posted on: May 23, 2008 - 4:26pm
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The Italeri PT crew figures should be out very soon. They been shown at several shows that Italeri has participated in.
I wrote Italeri about a possible 103 boat but they have not written back. I sure hope they do it. Then we can work on a 1/35 Higgins PT boat.
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: May 24, 2008 - 2:53am
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From the picture I've seen on the Italeri website, their 1/35th scale PT crew set has 10 figures, all attired in kapok life jackets and helmets.
Three of the figures appear to be the 40 mm crew (gunner, trainer, loader).
From what I could see, Italeri has done a pretty good job on the figures.
Now, for a 103-class 80' Elco and figures...
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David Waples
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Posted on: May 24, 2008 - 12:57pm
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I wish I was talented enough to sculpt figures. If I were I would make them like you see in most of these photos. Guys without their shirts, torn pants, sleeves rolled up, lounging around the decks would be the way I would want to have figures on the boat.
Model X magazine in their 01 issue did a marvelous job of showing you how to make your own figures. The person that did this was Pat Stansell. While Model X is not publishing any longer you can still pick up a copy of the magazine for $7.50 plus shipping. It also includes an article by Jeff Herne on building the Italeri kit. It was a marvelous magazine for it's short life and was well worth the cover price.
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Frank J Andruss Sr
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Posted on: May 24, 2008 - 1:32pm
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Once again, it's just these large Companies not doing their Homework when they make these items. I went to the site and yes, they do look pretty good, but certainly just a larger scale of men from the old Lindberg Kit, and the Revell PT 109 Kit. Helmets would be great, but I agree with Dave, most of the men ( Pacific ) wore shorts, boondockers, baseball type hat, and that was about it. I spoke with many many Crew members, who said they wore shorts on patrol, some wore Helmets, some did not, some put on their dugarees and shirts, some did not. It would be awesome to add these figures with a mixed bag. Have some Crew with shirs, and some with none, some with pants and some with shorts. Italeri is only looking at the boat at General Quarters and not anyway else.
Seems to me that some of you guys with experience can mold your own men, and we will buy them from you.............
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David Waples
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Posted on: May 24, 2008 - 5:27pm
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I wish I was talented enough to sculpt figures. If I were I would make them like you see in most of these photos. Guys without their shirts, torn pants, sleeves rolled up, lounging around the decks would be the way I would want to have figures on the boat.
Model X magazine in their 01 issue did a marvelous job of showing you how to make your own figures. The person that did this was Pat Stansell. While Model X is not publishing any longer you can still pick up a copy of the magazine for $7.50 plus shipping. It also includes an article by Jeff Herne on building the Italeri kit. It was a marvelous magazine for it's short life and was well worth the cover price.
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Drew Cook
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Posted on: May 26, 2008 - 1:27pm
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Scale figures representing the typical attire of PT men on and around their boats moored at a base -- no shirts, shorts, fatigue caps -- for modeling would be great, but...
If a company is going to put out a group of "purpose-built" PT crewmen like Italeri is for their PT 596, it makes a lot more sense that the figures be attired for combat, so they can be posed manning their battle stations on a war patrol -- like the Italeri figures are. BTW, the figures, in my opinion, look pretty darn good, and are very representative of PT crewmen dressed for a patrol.
Let the aftermarket manufacturers come up with shirtless-and-shorts crewmen, or, like several others on the board have suggested, bash your own. I'll take a set of well-realized PT crew figures in correct battle gear any day.
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Posted on: May 28, 2008 - 1:12am
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Hi
I think your right about Italeri redoing the PT596 kit as an earlier version as when you look at the deck there are spare holes in the underside before you press out the one's that you need & also the 40mm gun covers up 5 more deck light positions that are already cut out for the light grills & glass so they are planing something, also there are other location markings on the cabin etc that are not needed,
As for the figures that are not wearing jackets & helmets that would be a nice option. I made mine by converting a mixture of different companies men together rescupting etc untill I had what I wanted. They are mostly from Tamiya , Dragon, ADV, Verlinden. The hardest bit was making them either with bare chests or the shorts.
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