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Gerry McGovern
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Posted on: Aug 22, 2024 - 10:40am
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I have many photographs of the various stages and uses the PT-728 went through from sailing as a PT-109 ride, used in movies, sailed out of Kingston and her current work in Port Clinton, Ohio.
In the history that pops up online, there is a time frame that I am not sure about. There are some instances that claim the boat was used in the PT-109 movie in 1962. The operating boats in the movie were 85' ASR's converted to resemble Elco's. However, there is a consistent story about the boat being used in the movie (maybe as a static display as a background boat?) She is only a 72' Vosper. She was used in the 1993 TV mini-series, "JFK: Reckless Youth" with Patrick Dempsy playing JFK.
One item supporting the theory is that she lost her Vosper stepped forward main deck at some point. That is an expensive change to pull the deck and make the deck flush, but it was done at some point. Pictures of her form 1965 sailing as PT-109 clearly show she is flushed deck at that point.
The Navsource history has her sailing in Mass. as a party fishing boat in 1953 named, "The Infant". Thereafter, she ends up in Fort Lauderdale with Scotty Warren Boats as the, "Scotty Warren IV". Scotty Warren had quite a few surplus PT Boats converted to tour boats in the '50's in Wildwood and Cape May, NJ. It was common back then to take your boat down to Florida in the "off-season" to get a year round use of the vessels. So it is plausible Scotty Warren and his friend George Sinn often collaborated on buying and selling boats. George Sinn had a Floriday business as well as a Wildwood business. In Florida, he operated his boats under Marolyn Fishing Boats (I believe it was either his wife or his mother that was named Marolyn).
Scotty Warren was known to really cut a boat down to fit as many people as possible. He took the ex-Vosper PT-711 and took her main deck off, lowered and added a second deck so there is proof that this was done by private owners. (A lot cheaper to do in '50's that attempt anything like this today.)
So, my question is, can anyone on this site confirm/reject with certainty whether the ex-PT-728 may have been used in the PT-109 movie?
Example of taking the Vosper PT-711 and converting to passenger use removing the original main deck.
Another example of a Scotty Warren converted PT-Boat. The original Scotty Warren was developed by converting what would have been the ex-PT-762 (80' Elco that was cancelled before completion.)
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TED WALTHER |
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 Posted on: Aug 28, 2024 - 5:46pm
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Gerry;
I seem to remember Bill Bolmfalk promoted 728 as such when it was part of his Conch Republic Navy.
Take care,
TED
Which Scotty Warren was PT 762?
Also out of Tampa there were several PT’s converted named CAPT Anderson.
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Gerry McGovern
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Posted on: Sep 2, 2024 - 5:38pm
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Ted,
I know that was part of their story for the Conch Republic, but was it true? I have never seen the movie PT-109 (I know, I know...on my list) to determine if the boat was actually there in the background. All of the information I have ever seen always stated the 3 active boats used were 85' ASR's. I do know that the chart room seen on the PT-728 when sailing as PT-109 was always attributed to the movie. When the charthouse was taken off the boat, it sat at Sinn's dock in Wildwood crest for years as part of their WWII exhibit. It ended up on the 486 in 2000 when Capt. Ron Sinn traded one of his aluminum boats for the 486 and was trying to make another PT-109 ride.
That last picture in my post with the Scotty Warren shown was the ex-PT-762. It is hard to determine, but my guess is this was actually Scotty Warren IV. It is hard to trace because they had so many ex-PT's between Vospers and Elco's. I have pictures of at least 8 of their boats, all ex-PT's.
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