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alross2
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 Posted on: Jul 9, 2023 - 1:57pm
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I vaguely remember hearing/reading about an 80' ELCO that had its dayroom destroyed and not replaced. Talking with Frank, he remembered the same thing and came up with PT167. According to a former crewmember, they simply decked over the opening and mounted a couple guns up there. Does anyone have any photos of her in this configuration or know of a written reference? I'd like to do a drawing of this.
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Posted on: Jul 9, 2023 - 6:19pm
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Al
This is true, it was ripped off when the Stanvac Manila sank, 167 popped to the surface like a cork after the ship sank. If you look at the photo of ENS Ted Berlin you will notice the radar mast is lower than it should be, a good 3-4 feet lower. It is mounted to the deck, not the structure.
The film footage (that is on YouTube and Critical Past) of the 167 crew loading a torpedo at Bau Island, Rendova, is the best I have seen, but you will only see a portion of the “Replacement “ structure they built. I have not seen any mounts on it, but one of the crew members from the Sparks crew said it was constructed with either 2x4’s or 2x6’s, they only used it to store extra ammunition, like an extra ammo locker, it did have a hatch on it, and he said you had to go inside on your hands and knees because the overhead was so low.
Bob Pickett was on 167, maybe he shared a few photos with Frank.
It appears like it was only 1 foot or so off the deck. Unfortunately, on the underway film, the camera man was on the 167 for the whole film and you don’t get to see what you need. The best is this loading footage.
Take care,
TED
The before photo, taken in Bayonne December 1942.
PT 167 Returning to port the morning after the attack of Japanese planes that put the torpedo through her bow. 7 November 1943 I found this photo in the PT 107 file at Germantown in 1996. Notice SO-A Radar mast is in the stowed position laying on the structure.
Same photo lightened up. There is damage forward under the 37MM. 7 November 1943 .
PT167 Entry Damage Starboard side from Japanese Aerial Torpedo. 7 November 1943 .
PT 167 Port side exit damage from Japanese Aerial Torpedo . 7 November 1943 .
January 1944.
I know it’s hard to see, but because of the small height of the “new” structure, it almost appears that the port .50 turret is a stand alone, but it’s not . January 1944.
The red arrow shows a support brace that is mounted to the port .50 Turret for more stability, since the structure is now lower on the turret’s side. 28 January 1944.
Another view. 28 January 1944.
PT 167 is the middle boat, with SO-3 radar. This is LT. Harold Sparks crew. 9 June 1945.
Enlargement of the previous photo, notice how the radar mast appears to be mounted to the deck forward of the structure. 9 June 1945.
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alross2
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Posted on: Jul 10, 2023 - 11:22am
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Thanks Ted!
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