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smallwi

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of smallwi  Posted on: Jun 10, 2020 - 6:28am
Article in New York Times this morning regarding PT 59:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/nyregion/pt-59-jfk-wwII-boat-harlem-river.html?searchResultPosition=1

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Thanks Bill interesting read.
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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Jun 11, 2020 - 12:51pm
Gee, I must have missed you guys!:

Late last month, watched by a group of onlookers who were among the few to know of the boat’s presence

Sorry, I just think that the people here who have long known and researched her should get some credit. Not me by the way, I learned of her long ago through other member posts here. Ah well.



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I've seen several photos and a short video of the salvage work of the supposed PT 59, and the only thing recognizable to me is a single rudder. It certainly looks like a Elco-type PT rudder.


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Yeah, Drew. The jury's still out, I think.

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Not anymore Will. Don Shannon and crew picked up alot of the pieces yesterday and drove them to Battleship Cove.
Take care,
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OUTstanding!

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Dick   Send Email To Dick Posted on: Jun 17, 2020 - 10:43am

Ted . . .

Are you saying they (he) in fact verified it was PT 59, or were they just taking home the treasurers of a PT boat. Did they find the Elco hull number? Or, are they just assuming it is PT 59? Or, will we ever really know?

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To identify her with 100 percent accuracy would be hard. They'd have to get lucky with the keel number, builders plate, or a traceable serial number on a part. Although there should be a number of parts such as brackets and electrical boxes that were unique to a 77' Elco and likely to have still been on her when she sank.

This is what the rudder should look like, the drawing doesn't mention any markings:

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  TED WALTHER

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Jeff;
The rudder recovered is an 80' rudder. With that being said, PT 59 was in drydock and being refitted to a gunboat by USS Argonne(AS-10), at Tulagi, during the last two weeks of SEPT 1943. It is logical, that during this time period the rudders were replaced, as well as anything else that needed replacing blow the waterline. The 77' parts supply would have been drying up around this time anyway, and the slightly larger surface area of the 80' rudder would appear to be more efficient in turns with the added weight forward.
Take care,
TED

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