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Grady

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Grady   Send Email To Grady Posted on: Jun 17, 2020 - 11:05am
Deck Hatch ladder, I know a ladder will not be hard to fabricate, 2 legs & some rungs, however just for the sake of comparison does anyone know what they looked like ??


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For which hatch?


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Sorry Jeff I did not know there was a difference , still a new guy you know. Just in case I want to show the hatches open , want to do three both forward, 1 Aft , also the hatch opening it has just a slight lip above the deck correct,



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Jeff D

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Here's what the hatch looked like both closed and open: http://www.pt103.com/PT_Boat_Components_Deck_Hatch.html

I didn't know either but thought I'd narrow it down before looking into them. They are close to the same. Dick's drawing names are ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00151.pdf and ELCO_Roll_5535-2_72SCAN_00152.pdf if you need a better view to see the numbers or whatever:

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Grady

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Thanks Jeff, getting old I guess, I keep forgetting to give the film rolls a look


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Made some progress in in the odds & ends areas Life ring with rope grab, added the mast light cable , the mast is aluminium & brass so it will take a few coats to cover, or I might just leave the used look, reworked the training gear cranks on the day room cabin, added the port search light cable, placed items on the engine hatch cover & gave a coat of paint, missing the engine hatch ( work in progress)

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Thanks to Jeff D at pt103.com for the advise on the hatch ladders, made a simple jig for soldering , shaped and framed the deck hatch opening

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Hi,
Following your build and enjoying the progress. Sorry to say I am pretty sure 105 did not have the speed cranks on the daycabin roof as she was not fitted with the 90 degree gearboxes for them, certainly not early on anyway.

Best Regards,
Stu.





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Grady

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Thanks Stu, I did not know about the cranks, However I do use your Italeri 109 build as part of my reference guides, so I went back to Jeffs site and looked at your notes . I will remove the cranks, do the mounts stay?? I have no idea what a 77 horizontal type gear box looks like any help here would be great, I will also reach out to Jeff D, last question the hatch ladders which way do they face ? to bad about the cranks I really had a tough time getting the bends to look right.
Thanks Mike



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Mike,
I believe the mounts were absent Have a look at the photos taken just prior to shipping out on the Stanton. 105 features among the shots and i don't see the mounts. The gearboxes were still in design so not fitted at that time so i doubt any provision was made to cater for them. I made the same effort to fit them on my model but discovered they were not fitted to the 109 either. Ladders were fitted to port in the forward hatchways and lazarette and over the stbd forward window of the daycabin. The engine room ladder was fitted forward. Note, the daycabin hatch opened to port on these early boats. The tube training gear screwjacks are featured amongst the pdfs linked to Jeffs torpedo tube drawings. They were just a square drive and shaft held in a u shaped mount. I was still learning (still am) when i built my 109 model and was continually refining it. I have changed a couple of little details since the article, notably the rounded off daycabin rear corner and some other very small things. I missed the z shaped stiffeners between the lower tube frames but decided not to fit those as i would have caused more damage than they were worth as they are pretty much invisible anyway. Jeff helped me along the way with many photos and drawings. I am sure you will get all the help you need on this board, everyone here is most generous. Keep up the good work.

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Stu.





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