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 Author  Topic: PT 513 RON 35 UMBRIAGO
Jeff D

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Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Jeff D   Send Email To Jeff D Posted on: Feb 9, 2019 - 1:01pm
Thanks Arjan. It looks like they got the forward door fairly right for the 596. On the 565-624 doors, the forward door wasn't armored but the starboard one was.

The locker was quite different on the 565-612 boats, it blended into the wing smoothly. The latches are very visible, you'd think they would be also in the 516 pic I posted:

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TED WALTHER

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You're welcome Arjan. I don't really use PT images in my work thanks to Dick Washichek's Elco drawing DVD other than to verify that I didn't screw something up. One detail is that Elco drawings show no locker until PT 565, those we're seeing on these earlier boats are slightly different in shape. Which you guys are nailing well.

I think the door was flush with the wing. The only thing sticking out beside the latches was a 36 inch by 1 1/2 inch piano hinge along the inboard joint. Layers of paint would have done a good job of obscuring it:

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This is from one of Andy's drawings for PT's 613-624 showing the hinge:

jJYxj.jpg

You can see a clamshell vent inboard and above the door in this closeup. Something that bothers me is that you can't see any sign of the latches:

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Jeff;
Is that PT 516 photo a crop also? Or do you have a photo showing the entire boat/ cockpit bow area?


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Jeff D

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It is a crop so it didn't lose any detail. Here's the whole LARGE image: https://i.imgur.com/0g2tdGp.jpg



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Frank J Andruss Sr

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Funny in our family ( Italian ) that Umbriago is something for a person or persons drunk on their fanny or half in the bag


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  TED WALTHER

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Frank;
That is what my family(the Italian side) always said it means(Translation: A Drunk or being drunk), but, for PT Boat purposes,
I think they were referring to this 1944 Jimmy Durante Song about your friend Umbriago (The Drunk) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJYI930RdW8

Take care,
TED


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