PT Boat Forum


Moderated by: Dick, Jeff D

The PT Boat Forum ª PT Boats of WWII ª  PT Boats - General

Next Page | Page: 1 of 3

Back to Topic Index Page 10 | Replies: 22 | Pages: [1] 2 3

 Author  Topic: Two great Elco 80' photos
Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 29, 2018 - 11:56am
I hadn't ever seen either of these two great photos before, of 80' Elco PTs at Tulagi. They are from Gene Kirkland's PT King website, with permission.


jCnxI.jpg


jCK9o.jpg





Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 29, 2018 - 4:58pm
Thanks to Gene, and thanks to Dick for posting these.


Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 29, 2018 - 6:16pm
Anyone know the name of the river at Tulagi -- or was it Florida Island -- they used to run the PTs up, and moor along the shoreline?

I think they moored the Niagra up that river also.


Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Will Day

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Will Day   Send Email To Will Day Posted on: Aug 30, 2018 - 1:54pm
Drew: I think the river was called the Maliali. Not positive.

Will

Total Posts: 1896 | Joined: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:19pm | IP Logged

  TED WALTHER

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of TED WALTHER   Send Email To TED WALTHER Posted on: Aug 30, 2018 - 5:59pm
Gents;
As per Alexander Wells(PT 116 RON 6 and PT 525 RON 36) description(REF:https://books.google.com/books?id=D6-vOYPKOvcC&pg=RA5-PA9&dq=Maliali+river&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs0byi-ZXdAhUlZN8KHZhZBjEQ6AEIMDAB#v=onepage&q=Maliali%20river&f=false) The "River" was not really a river, It was more an inlet, with a small stream at the head.

jC9uZ.jpg

After reading Wells description, I now think this photo is of USS Niagara (AGP-1) moored at the mouth of the Maliali River prior to departing with RON 8 DIV 23(which was detached from RON 2, PT 110, PT 144, PT 145, PT 146, PT 147, PT 148) and being sunk on 23 May 1943. The ship was originally incorrectly identified as USS Hilo(AGP-2)
jCAFa.jpg
Enlarge the photo and you will see the port side inboard aft boat is a 77" ELCO, outboard is a Zebra 80' ELCO (RON 10) the two forward boats on the port side are 80' ELCO's (NOTICE: All of these 80' ELCO's on port have that weird T.V. type radar(?) that PT 133 has in Morobe photos. I think it is based off of the surface search radar on PBY's(usually under wing). The two boats on the starboard side are from PT 144-PT 148 with the SCR-517 radar(Beehive). As per the description below, I believe the photo was taken from USS Rail(AM-26).

"On 7 April the Japanese raided the Guadalcanal-Tulagi area with 177 planes, of which about 25 were shot down. Two bombs sank the New Zealand corvette HMNZS Moa. Niagara, in the thick of the fight, was north of the harbor, moored to the west bank of the Maliali River, heading downstream with minesweeper Rail (AM-26) tied up outboard well aft. Nine enemy planes came up the river, none of them over 150 feet above the water. Niagara and Rail took them all under fire". (REF: Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships, Vol 5, 1970: https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/n/niagara-vii.html).


Take care,
TED
P.S. Drew thanks for the photos, there is something going on with Gene's website, It comes up as only a directory after I click on the PT Logo.

P.S. #2: Drew the 1st photo look closely, the boat has no mast elevated!! Maybe they threw it on the beach!

The second photo the boat appears to have twin .50's on the forecastle, like RON 8 boats at Morobe, so this maybe PT 144-PT 148 MTB DIV 23, it also looks to have something above the boat, maybe the surface search radar antenna I mention above. Aft torpedo tubes have been removed.


Total Posts: 2887 | Joined: Oct 16, 2006 - 7:42am | IP Logged

Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 31, 2018 - 5:06am
Thanks, Will and Ted. Ted, neither of those 80' Elcos in those photos has a mast up!

I've read of this "river" in accounts of PTs at Guadalcanal, the one I can lay my hands on at the moment being PT 111 skipper John Clagett's novel "The Slot," a fictionalized version of his WWII experiences.

This is how Clagett describes (I think) the Maliali in "The Slot":

"...After a while a Higgins boat came up the creek and Noble (Clagett's character) climbed in... The creek narrowed to a 100-yard wide strip of water running through dense jungle, then widened into a round pool some 300 yards in diameter. The Marlboro, the PT tender (the fictionalized Niagra), lay against the west shore of this pool, covered with camouflage netting studded with palm branches."


Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 31, 2018 - 5:09am
Duplicate. Don't know why -- I touch the clicker on the mouse lightly - once - and a second identical post appears.

Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 31, 2018 - 5:12am
Another bloody duplicate!

Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 31, 2018 - 5:13am
Duplicate.

Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Drew Cook

TOP BOSS
  

    
Post a Reply To This Topic    Reply With Quotes     Edit Message     View Profile of Drew Cook  Posted on: Aug 31, 2018 - 5:14am
Duplicate.

Total Posts: 1253 | Joined: Oct 19, 2006 - 10:44am | IP Logged

Next Page

Pages: [1] 2 3


Lock Topic

 

Forum Legend

New Member

Reply to topic

More than 25 posts | Full Member

Reply to topic with quoted message

More than 50 posts | Advanced Member

Edit Message

More than 150 posts | MASTER

View profile

More than 300 posts | TOP BOSS

Email member